At 8/23/2011 07:12 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote:
Personally, I think the POP has
gotten too big. It's over 1400 pages and growing. I also agree with an
earlier poster that I had rather see less combining of instructions as
sometimes the exceptions get lost.
Absolutely!
Here is a typical PoOP paragaph:
(corrected formatting. sorry)
At 8/23/2011 07:12 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote:
Personally, I think the POP has gotten too big. It's over 1400 pages
and growing. I also agree with an earlier poster that I had rather
see less combining of instructions as sometimes the exceptions get lost.
Absolutely!
I am using Daves citation to illustrate what I wanted (in a spin off
named "A new POP")
Would it realy be that hard to create a
text-reader-interpreter-showerhave code that would deliver this
when looking for LH:
For LH the first operand is treated as a 32-bit signed binary integer.
or this when
I believe that the PoOP should or could stay like it is, because the normal
use is not as a tutorial for learning ASSEMBLER or machine architecture,
but to make clear some difficulties or peculiarities of seldom used
instructions,
at least in my case.
For learning ASSEMBLER, I would use the follo
On 8/23/2011 2:14 PM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
I believe that the PoOP should or could stay like it is, because
the normal
use is not as a tutorial for learning ASSEMBLER or machine
architecture,
but to make clear some difficulties or peculiarities of seldom used
instructions,
at least in my case.
At 8/23/2011 03:29 PM, Gerhard Postpischil wrote:
The printed manual is getting to be unwieldy. I could see having
it split into two, or possibly three, volumes:
You still print the manuals Why?
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On 8/23/2011 5:03 PM, David Cole wrote:
You still print the manuals Why?
I do not print manuals, but I do have a library containing
reasonably current material, and some scant MVS and OS/360
stuff. For quick references I have a CD set, which until
recently was faster than going on-line.
Ba
At 8/23/2011 05:55 PM, Gerhard Postpischil wrote:
Back in OS/360 days I read every manual we got, cover to cover, as
well as all the updates. I still prefer a tangible manual that I can
stick book marks into and reference quickly without doing repeated searches.
Yeah, I used to do that too (rea
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On 8/23/2011 2:14 PM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
> I believe that the PoOP should or could stay like it is, because
> the normal
> use is not as a tutorial for
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> It's hard
Is it the PoOP that's too big, or the instruction set?
At 8/24/2011 09:08 AM, McKown, John wrote:
I agree, but not with such passion. Of course, everybody in my group
other than myself likes to print their favorite manuals on the local
laser printer. I really don't know why. I prefer reading PDF manuals
on my Kindle DX ebook reader. The only "problem
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have been for many millions of years.
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The printed manual is getting to be unwieldy. I
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Subject: Re: Is the PoOP too big? (was Assembler manuals)
On 8/24/2011 8:54 AM, Bodoh John Robert wrote:
> It's hard for me to believe that trees are intentionally
> being destroyed so reference manuals can be printed. Have
> you not heard of Adobe reader or BookMana
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:34:44 -0400, David Cole wrote:
>At 8/23/2011 07:12 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote:
>>Personally, I think the POP has gotten too big. It's over 1400 pages
>>and growing. I also agree with an earlier poster that I had rather
>>see less combining of instructions as sometimes the except
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:26:53 -0400, David Cole wrote:
>the PDF
>format has gotten pretty good. It's easy to add your own personal
>bookmarks and even hilighting to the manuals, and of course, they
>can't be beat when it comes to searching.
I disagree. PDF searching isn't bad, but IMO .BOO search
Unfortunately, since IBM does not support a .boo bookreader on 64bit
linux, the option no longer exists for some of us.
Tony Thigpen
-Original Message -
From: Tom Marchant
Sent: 08/29/2011 05:18 PM
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:26:53 -0400, David Cole wrote:
the PDF
format has gotten pret
At 8/29/2011 05:14 PM, Tom Marchant wrote:
Dave Cole wrote:
The suggestion that changes like this would shorten the POO by "at
least 25%" is absurd.
Of course it's absurd. I was exaggerating to make a point. But I do
think the size reduction would be more than the equally "absurd" "few
pages".
On 29 August 2011 18:22, Tony Thigpen wrote:
> Unfortunately, since IBM does not support a .boo bookreader on 64bit
> linux, the option no longer exists for some of us.
I thought the reader was all Java. What part of it requires support
for a 64-bit OS?
I've wondered for a while - is the .boo da
The last linux build is from 2007 and I could not get it to run on a
64-bit SUSE system.
The latest windows version has this note:
Since Softcopy Reader is built with the Microsoft Visual C++ 2005
Service Pack 1 Redistributable Package MFC Security Update (KB2538242,
Security Bulletin MS11-025),
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Tony Harminc wrote:
> I've wondered for a while - is the .boo data format documented
> anywhere? I looked briefly at the z/OS Bookmanager datasets, and
> didn't see any mapping macros or the like, but that doesn't rule it
> out.
>
> Tony H.
>
Tony:
The .BOO fil
There is a program called "boo2pdf" that will do a 'so-so' conversion. I
have used it on a few older books that are not available in PDF format.
From the web page:
"I am using the JAR files from IBM SoftCopy Reader for Linux. I've
decompiled these and written my own main class and and a wrapper s
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