Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-10 Thread Bertus Bekker
ָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List on > behalf of Bertus Bekker > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2024 7:08 AM > To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: Relative branching instructions info > > Although not fully related

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Relative branching instructions info Although not fully related to this topic, and covering more implementation than pure architecture matters, the IBM z Functional Matrix Redpapers do give a summary of some of the evolution. On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 12

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-10 Thread Emir Garza
According to the ESA/390 Principles of Operation (SA22-7201-08), relative addressing instructions were introduced in 1996. Relative-long instructions were added in 2000. Under "Highlights of ESA/390", p. 1-3: "The immediate-and-relative-instruction facility includes 13 new instructions, most

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-10 Thread Bertus Bekker
wrote: > I second (or is it fourth or fifth now . . .) that request! > > Peter > > From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List On > Behalf Of Martin Trübner > Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 3:35 PM > To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: Relative branching instru

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread Farley, Peter
I second (or is it fourth or fifth now . . .) that request! Peter From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List On Behalf Of Martin Trübner Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 3:35 PM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Relative branching instructions info Yes Sir, please !!! Martin On

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread Mark Hammack
Something like this would have answered the question I had a few weeks ago :-). So one up-vote from me. *Mark Hammack* On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 11:04 AM Jonathan Scott wrote: > I have for some years had a comprehensive list of all opcodes > supported by HLASM showing the range of OPTABLEs for

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread Martin Trübner
Yes Sir, please !!! Martin On 09.05.24 18:04, Jonathan Scott wrote: I have for some years had a comprehensive list of all opcodes supported by HLASM showing the range of OPTABLEs for which each one is valid, the instruction format, whether it is an extended mnemonic, the instruction name and so

RES: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread João Reginato
Great Thank you -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Assembler List Em nome de Jonathan Scott Enviada em: quinta-feira, 9 de maio de 2024 12:16 Para: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Assunto: Re: Relative branching instructions info If you want to know quickly what instructions are

RES: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread João Reginato
Very usefull Thank you -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Assembler List Em nome de Tony Harminc Enviada em: quinta-feira, 9 de maio de 2024 12:13 Para: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Assunto: Re: Relative branching instructions info On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 11:07, João Reginato

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
Jonathan Scott Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 12:04 PM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Relative branching instructions info I have for some years had a comprehensive list of all opcodes supported by HLASM showing the range of OPTABLEs for which each one is valid, the instruction format

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread Charles Mills
AWESOME! Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jonathan Scott Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 9:05 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Relative branching instructions info I have for some years

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread Jonathan Scott
I have for some years had a comprehensive list of all opcodes supported by HLASM showing the range of OPTABLEs for which each one is valid, the instruction format, whether it is an extended mnemonic, the instruction name and some other information. This information is generated systematically by a

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread Gary Weinhold
o: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: RES: Relative branching instructions info Importance: Low I need to know in what hardware it was first implemented

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
קֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 11:21 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Relative branching instructions info Ah! That's a different question. It's always a research project. I know of no exhaustive "

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread Charles Mills
The OP said that, but not in his OP. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 8:20 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Relative branching instructions

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread Charles Mills
: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of João Reginato Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 8:07 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: RES: Relative branching instructions info Importance: Low I need to know in what hardware it was first implemented

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 11:10 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Relative branching instructions info Principles of Operation is both the best source, and also about the only definitive source. https

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread Jonathan Scott
If you want to know quickly what instructions are available at a given hardware level, you can assemble a dummy program (just an END statement) with OPTABLE(Znn,LIST) and look at the resulting report. Jonathan Scott, HLASM IBM Hursley, UK

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread Tony Harminc
nsagem original- > De: IBM Mainframe Assembler List Em > nome de Tom Marchant > Enviada em: quinta-feira, 9 de maio de 2024 11:56 > Para: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Assunto: Re: Relative branching instructions info > > Do you mean information beyond what is docu

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread Charles Mills
: Thursday, May 9, 2024 5:50 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Relative branching instructions info Importance: Low Hi Do you know where can I find additional information about the hardware implementation of the relative branching instructions? (ie. CLIJ, CRJ, J, etc) TIA João

RES: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread João Reginato
I need to know in what hardware it was first implemented -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Assembler List Em nome de Tom Marchant Enviada em: quinta-feira, 9 de maio de 2024 11:56 Para: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Assunto: Re: Relative branching instructions info Do you mean

Re: Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread Tom Marchant
Do you mean information beyond what is documented in the Principles of Operation? -- Tom Marchant On Thu, 9 May 2024 09:50:07 -0300, João Reginato wrote: >Do you know where can I find additional information about the hardware >implementation of the relative branching instructions? > >(ie. CLI

Relative branching instructions info

2024-05-09 Thread João Reginato
Hi Do you know where can I find additional information about the hardware implementation of the relative branching instructions? (ie. CLIJ, CRJ, J, etc) TIA João