the BEAR (was: New z16 Instructions)

2022-05-07 Thread Martin Trübner
Now that POPS-13 is out: I see and understand LBEAR and STBEAR. But I wounder why RP did not get a non-bear destruction brother of RPY like LPSWE did with LPSWEY. Martin

Re: the BEAR (was: New z16 Instructions)

2022-04-27 Thread Martin Trübner
Peter, I still have no exact idea what both instructions do (waiting for the book of books) , but your stmt >>  Both LBEAR and STBEAR are created for OS's other than z/OS let me hope that both where for ALSO not for the little stepbrother z/VSE. And now I can even visualise

Re: the BEAR (was: New z16 Instructions)

2022-04-26 Thread Peter Relson
Both LBEAR and STBEAR are created for OS's other than z/OS. Could z/OS use them constructively? Possibly. If by "constructive" we positively balance functional benefit over performance cost. Could an application use STBEAR constructively? Possibly. Probably more likely to be of constructive

Re: the BEAR (was: New z16 Instructions)

2022-04-18 Thread Martin Trübner
Ed, after I wrote back to Dave- just what you said occurred to me too. In some cases It might be nice to find out "how was I called" or from where (and thus reading the bear and not location 110). And maybe the two (LBEAR and STBEAR) are just two flavors of the very same- one against

Re: the BEAR (was: New z16 Instructions)

2022-04-17 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 4/17/2022 1:12 AM, Martin Trübner wrote: what would LBEAR do other than a LG Rn,X'110' ? Martin, X'110' is not the BEAR. The BEAR is a special register that holds the last Breaking Event Address (BEA). X'110' is simply the place where the BEAR is automatically stored when an interrupt

Re: the BEAR (was: New z16 Instructions)

2022-04-17 Thread Gibney, Dave
You are correct, I reversed L and ST in my thought > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List l...@listserv.uga.edu> On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2022 1:48 PM > To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: the BEAR (was: Ne

Re: the BEAR (was: New z16 Instructions)

2022-04-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
List [ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] on behalf of Martin Trübner [mar...@pi-sysprog.de] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2022 4:12 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: the BEAR (was: New z16 Instructions) Dave, what would LBEAR do other than a LG Rn,X'110' ? and what is STBEAR good

Re: the BEAR (was: New z16 Instructions)

2022-04-17 Thread Gibney, Dave
A.EDU > Subject: the BEAR (was: New z16 Instructions) > > Dave, > > > what would LBEAR do other than a LG Rn,X'110' ? > > > and what is STBEAR good for? to falsify the original? > > > I wait for the POP to describe them in more detail > > > Martin

Re: the BEAR (was: New z16 Instructions)

2022-04-17 Thread esst...@juno.com
. If the POP manual is not available, where can one find the new instructions ? -- Original Message -- From: Martin Trübner To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: the BEAR (was: New z16 Instructions) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 10:12:07 +0200 Dave, what would LBEAR do other

the BEAR (was: New z16 Instructions)

2022-04-17 Thread Martin Trübner
Dave, what would LBEAR do other than a LG Rn,X'110' ? and what is STBEAR good for? to falsify the original? I wait for the POP to describe them in more detail Martin Am 16.04.22 um 23:47 schrieb Gibney, Dave: It seems problematic to do a STBEAR, but I can see the utility of LBEAR.