>Of course since it doesn't function like that, to get the same
>affect, change the default saving location of Bayesian non-spam to 4;
>by changing it to 4, incoming non-spam email won't get saved to the
>notspam directory and manually whitelist all senders of list emails
>or legitimate spam. Net
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
schreibt:
>Prevent additions to the corpus.
>
>So for instance if i was sent an email from someone on the redlist
>ASSP would process the message but not add the processed message to
>the spam corpus (if it was determined to be spam).
>
It would be nice if the redlist functioned in the way I described it
functioning in my post earlier today (I have pasted the redlist portion
of the post below). Of course since it doesn't function like that, to
get the same affect, change the default saving location of Bayesian
non-spam to 4;
On 8/2/06, Fritz Borgstedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
> schreibt:
> >Though it is sad, i would have liked it to do what we thought it did.
> >(did that make sense?)
>
>
> What do you think, the redlist/redre should do?
>
Prevent addit
geniusfreak wrote:
> Though it is sad, i would have liked it to do what we thought it did.
> (did that make sense?)
>
It did - and I agree, if only to make myself feel right - J/K. I think
it would be a great feature.
-
geniusfreak wrote:
I think we have a new feature request... :)
I think I'm gonna go stick my head in the sand! (Sorry for the
wild-goose chase.) But if anything good can come of this, I can only
hope. I have to agree, I cant think of a good reason why Redlisted
email should go into t
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
schreibt:
>Though it is sad, i would have liked it to do what we thought it did.
>(did that make sense?)
What do you think, the redlist/redre should do?
-
Take S
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
schreibt:
>
>The redlist is for addresses you always want to be processed no
>matter what?
>Redlisted email DO contribture to the spam folder?
I will repeat it again: the redlist/redre will prevent unwanted
additions to the whitelist -
On 8/2/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Everyone - I'm really sorry about this.
>
Humans make mistakes. It happens. No worries!
Though it is sad, i would have liked it to do what we thought it did.
(did that make sense?)
Kevin
-
On 8/2/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If thats true then I am operating on some outdated knowledge in regards to
> the Redlist or more likely I am confusing the Redlist functionality with
> another product. I apologize for the confusion.
>
I think we have a new feature req
I realize that now. I was confusing products.
Everyone - I'm really sorry about this.
Fritz Borgstedt wrote:
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
schreibt:
Its because of the TestRE match. Disable the TestRE and try again.
Wrong. The Testre
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
schreibt:
>Its because of the TestRE match. Disable the TestRE and try again.
Wrong. The Testre does nothing. Micheal, you are completely wrong
regarding redlist.
-
If thats true then I am operating on some outdated knowledge in regards
to the Redlist or more likely I am confusing the Redlist functionality
with another product. I apologize for the confusion.
Crap. I need to perform my own tests and figure out how I got my wires
crossed on this one.
Fri
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
schreibt:
>Something is wrong then. Check your logs, turn on debug, and verify
>what is happening during your test.
Micheal, I really do not know, what you are talking.
The Redlist/Redre conrols unwanted additions to the whitelist - *
Its because of the TestRE match. Disable the TestRE and try again.
geniusfreak wrote:
On 8/2/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What in this log should be Redlisted?
The remote email address.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
According to what i understand of the Re
On 8/2/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What in this log should be Redlisted?
>
The remote email address.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
According to what i understand of the RedList the email should have
been flagged by the bayesian but not added to the spam folder like it
was.
Kevin
What in this log should be Redlisted?
geniusfreak wrote:
On 8/2/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Something is wrong then. Check your logs, turn on debug, and verify what
is happening during your test.
I have 2 debug logs that I was able to capture
On 8/2/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Something is wrong then. Check your logs, turn on debug, and verify what
> is happening during your test.
>
I have 2 debug logs that I was able to capture during the middle of the night.
However nothing stood out to me as to why.
As
Travis Forghani wrote:
I'm probably confused but here is how I see the redlist at the moment.
The redlist is a mechanism, like the notation of the ASSP
interface states, to prevent users who have auto-respond on from
contributing to the whitelist (since anyone a local user sends a
I haven't had a chance to review it for technical details yet. Perhaps
I can start tonight.
Travis Forghani wrote:
So is what I said in the post I made this morning and that you are
planning to add to the wiki correct (the post with content to give to
users on how to report to ASSP)?
si
So is what I said in the post I made this morning and that you are
planning to add to the wiki correct (the post with content to give to
users on how to report to ASSP)?
sincerely,
Travis Forghani
IT Administrator
Bowman Enterprises, Inc.
Cell: 919-795-9298
Office: 919-894-3662, Ext. 34
[EMA
Micheal Espinola Jr wrote:
I would not consider or document the use of the Redlist in terms of
auto-responders only, as it has many other practical applications.
Auto-responders and out-of-office responses should be part of a list of
recommended uses.
To add to this, remember that the Re
Something is wrong then. Check your logs, turn on debug, and verify
what is happening during your test.
geniusfreak wrote:
On 8/2/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
*Redlisted mail does not enter the corpus*. That's it - period.
Actually i found after
I'm probably confused but here is how I see the redlist at the moment.
The redlist is a mechanism, like the notation of the ASSP
interface states, to prevent users who have auto-respond on from
contributing to the whitelist (since anyone a local user sends an email
to is added to the whitel
I redRe "Fw: Fw:", amongst many many other things. When I finish the
'BombRe and ScriptRe' Wiki entry, I'll do the RedRe next and make
available some recommendations.
Roger Stevenson wrote:
I'm less concerned over the silly
newsletters than the FW: FW: FW mail. And people wonder why
I *don't* allow my users to submit.
I NP list newsletters where appropriate.
Adam Campbell wrote:
I hope I'm not changing the
topic too much.
How do yall maintain control
over what gets submitted as spam/notspam? Do you instruct your users
and leave it to them to submit, or do
On 8/2/06, Dickson, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I believe there is a regex tutorial on Fritz's site. Very easy to
> understand.
>
We have a wiki for that now. (that also has that tutorial on it)
http://www.pointdee.co.uk/assp-wiki/index.php?title=Category:Regular_Expressions
Kevin
I believe there is a regex tutorial on
Fritz’s site. Very easy to understand.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Stevenson
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006
2:44 PM
To: 'Questions
and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy'
Subject: Re:
I'm
less concerned over the silly newsletters than the FW: FW: FW mail. And
people wonder why they get spam and viruses.
Maybe
we can get one of these perl proficient folks to write a rule that rejects
email with too many addresses in the message body.
Roger
Stevenson
NEA
Clinic
On 8/2/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> *Redlisted mail does not enter the corpus*. That's it - period.
Actually i found after testing it, that it did.
I redlisted an external email address. (and confirmed it)
Then i sent from that email address to myself.
The email was ta
I have 3000 users and leave it to them,
but monitor the submissions now and then. Also the submission autoreply/notification
tells them explicitly what they have done, and what to do to correct it if they
submitted it to the wrong place.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL P
I hope I'm not changing the topic too
much.
How do yall maintain control over what gets submitted as
spam/notspam? Do you instruct your users and leave it to them to submit,
or do you use the cc spam and submit?
As the email admin for my company (~130 mailboxes) , I feel
I should contro
? Whitelisted email goes into the notspam directory - by default.
Whitelisted and Bayesian OK are not the same thing.
Travis Forghani wrote:
How would whitelisting add to the corpus when incoming whitelisted mail
doesn't go into the notspam directory (by default)?
sincerely,
Travis
How would whitelisting add to the corpus when incoming whitelisted mail
doesn't go into the notspam directory (by default)?
sincerely,
Travis Forghani
IT Administrator
Bowman Enterprises, Inc.
Cell: 919-795-9298
Office: 919-894-3662, Ext. 34
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This message is intended only f
Ahh, sorry. :-)
Personally, I think a list of users who dont would be easier to
maintain than a list of users that do. But that just reflects my
personal experiences with ASSP.
Dickson, Paul wrote:
No you got
it right. I was just saying I
don’t care if it is a list of
*Redlisted mail does not enter the corpus*. That's it - period. I
didn't respond to what Luke wrote - I responded to your statements
about "message ok" and logging destinations.
Redlisted email is still subject to additional processing, such as
Bayesian calculations, RE matching, etc. It ju
No you got it right. I was just saying I
don’t care if it is a list of users who want them, or users who don’t.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006
2:14 PM
To: Questions
and Answers for users of AS
?? I was being serious ;-P I mean, I think it would be a good idea
to be able to have a list (similar to noProcessing) or email addresses
to never send reports to.
Or did I misinterpret your question?
Dickson, Paul wrote:
Which ever:)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED
I am completely confused now. The Show Redlist/Whitelist interface
states the following:
"The redlist is not a blacklist. The redlist is a list of addresses
that cannot contribute to the whitelist, and who are not considered
local, even if their mail is from a local computer. For example, if
Which ever:)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Micheal
Espinola Jr
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:02 PM
To: Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
Subject: Re: [Assp-user] mail interface question and suggestion.
Dic
Dickson, Paul wrote:
> If I turn on "Spam/Ham Report & Whitelist Add/Remove" after the fact,
> will the next rebuildspamdb make the adjustments, or will it only take
> effect for the new submissions?
>
>
Only new submissions.
> Suggestion:
>
> I find some users hate to see the spam submission
I think you are confusing notspamlog (whitelisted) with baysNonSpamLog
(Bayesian message ok). Redlisted mail *wont* go into the corpus no
matter what baysNonSpamLog (message ok) option is.
baysNonSpamLog coincides with incomingOkMail, which by default is
blank/disabled (does not get saved).
--- Begin Message ---
I believe the redlist was basically for use to
redlist a local sender on vacation with an autoresponse onto keep from
whitelisting spam that may enter his mail box and yet have the protection of
mail filtering. Hence thats why redlist contributes to the spam/notspam fo
If I turn on "Spam/Ham Report & Whitelist Add/Remove" after the fact,
will the next rebuildspamdb make the adjustments, or will it only take
effect for the new submissions?
Suggestion:
I find some users hate to see the spam submission reports, while others
really want it to know their mail has b
We don't want Redlisted senders to contribute to the spamdb. The
defualt setting for mailok is 4. Since we redlist a sender it won't be
classified as spam and since the mailok option is 4, it won't be put in
the notspam directory. I don't see why someone would change the
default as that crea
I was wondering if it made more sense to put the TestRe into the Test
Mode section of the GUI ?
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Awesome! Thank you Travis! If no one objects, I'll compare this to
might notes to see if anything is missing (on either side) and add it
to the Wiki.
If anyone has alternative verbiage (dumbed-down for less-technical
users), please - speak up!
This probably wont get posted for a day or two.
I'm not certain if you are adding more detail to the conversation, or
if you are confused about what I was referring to, so I'll add this:
I didn't say it didn't. I was referring to ASSP. ClamSMTP is an
external application to ASSP.
Charles Marcus wrote:
Micheal Espinola Jr wrote:
Only if SPFWL (in the SPF options) is enabled.
Travis Forghani wrote:
> A whitelisted sender is checked by SPF, etc before being allowed in,
> right? I figure that a whitelisted sender is not scrutinized by the
> Bayesian filter, right?
>
>
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I've pasted below what I believe should be given to users once ASSP is
brought on live initially. It is not accurate in detail because its
purpose is to be given to users and not tech personal.
Reporting
to ASSP (Anitspam SMTP Proxy)
Whitelist/NotWhiteList:
A white list is a list of senders t
Micheal Espinola Jr wrote:
> Yes. Its true you can follow those additional steps to extract the
> files required, but the definitions are *not* up to date. I cant recall
> the exact details, but it should be in the list or forum archives.
But ClamSMTP WILL work with up to date definitions...
A whitelisted sender is checked by SPF, etc before being allowed in,
right? I figure that a whitelisted sender is not scrutinized by the
Bayesian filter, right?
--
sincerely,
Travis Forghani
IT Administrator
Bowman Enterprises, Inc.
Cell: 919-795-9298
Office: 919-894-3662, Ext. 34
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