Re: [Assp-user] ASSP Development was -> ASSP effectiveness

2016-03-03 Thread Grayhat
:: On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 08:17:54 +0100 :: :: Thomas Eckardt wrote: > >You cannot go > >download each previous version that was released. > > This is simply NOT true. > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/assp/files/OldFiles/ > > But you need a SF account and you have to login to see the old

Re: [Assp-user] ASSP Development was -> ASSP effectiveness

2016-03-03 Thread Thomas Eckardt
>You cannot go >download each previous version that was released. This is simply NOT true. https://sourceforge.net/projects/assp/files/OldFiles/ But you need a SF account and you have to login to see the old versions. CVS - is for development and is cleanup after some time from too old code f

Re: [Assp-user] AsspSelfLoader was -> Ver 2.4.7 16036 CPU Load

2016-03-03 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Wednesday, March 02, 2016 08:03:49 AM Thomas Eckardt wrote: > The 'assp/sl-cache' folder is created and filled by the > 'lib/AsspSelfLoader.pm' module. I wasn't loading that before, now I am, and its interesting. I see all the many pieces/files in sl-cache, 1054 individual files from the one a

Re: [Assp-user] ASSP Development was -> ASSP effectiveness

2016-03-03 Thread Lee Howard
On 03/03/2016 12:41 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Thursday, March 03, 2016 11:44:43 AM Lee Howard wrote: > >> How many is "many"? > It was discussed in the past on list by several, and some other put it on > Wikipdia. How much do you need? I'm merely pointing out that you're using the wor

Re: [Assp-user] ASSP Development was -> ASSP effectiveness

2016-03-03 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thursday, March 03, 2016 03:50:33 PM Robert K Coffman Jr. -Info From Data Corp. wrote: > >On 3/3/2016 3:41 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > No it never led to a fork, but I think it might be why Fritz ceased > > working on ASSP. > > No, Fritz passed away and was actively developing the w

Re: [Assp-user] Ver 2.4.7 16036 CPU Load

2016-03-03 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thursday, March 03, 2016 12:03:46 PM Lee Howard wrote: > > Well, you've now qualified your earlier statements by adding the "large" > requirement. > > I'm the author of iaxmodem. It's monolithic. iaxmodem.c is 1800 lines > long. Granted, that's smaller than 8000. I'm not sure if that meets

Re: [Assp-user] ASSP Development was -> ASSP effectiveness

2016-03-03 Thread Robert K Coffman Jr. -Info From Data Corp.
>On 3/3/2016 3:41 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > No it never led to a fork, but I think it might be why Fritz ceased working on > ASSP. No, Fritz passed away and was actively developing the week before that happened. - Bob

Re: [Assp-user] ASSP Development was -> ASSP effectiveness

2016-03-03 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thursday, March 03, 2016 11:44:43 AM Lee Howard wrote: > How many is "many"? Did you take a survey? Or are you merely > expressing what you feel should be accurate because you believe your > opinions are shared by Alchaemist from Wikipedia (who put the > "Disadvantages" bits into the article

Re: [Assp-user] Ver 2.4.7 16036 CPU Load

2016-03-03 Thread Lee Howard
On 03/03/2016 11:30 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Thursday, March 03, 2016 08:43:44 AM you wrote: > >> >> This last bit about "just about every other modern program and project" >> is irrelevant and a red herring fallacy. Do you have some statistics on >> every other modern program and pr

Re: [Assp-user] ASSP Development was -> ASSP effectiveness

2016-03-03 Thread Lee Howard
On 03/03/2016 09:37 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > Its not just mine, its a sentiment that has existed for years, shared by many. I think debate and discussion are healthy but it needs to be done without these types of hyperbole. How many is "many"? Did you take a survey? Or are you mer

Re: [Assp-user] Ver 2.4.7 16036 CPU Load

2016-03-03 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thursday, March 03, 2016 08:43:44 AM you wrote: > Forgive me for jumping into this mid-discussion, and admittedly I have > not read every word of this thread, but... Others are always welcome, mid-discussion or not. > I have understood that there are two primary points that William is > promot

Re: [Assp-user] ASSP Development was -> ASSP effectiveness

2016-03-03 Thread Robert K Coffman Jr. -Info From Data Corp.
Best to let this discussion die until someone says they want to do the work. Who cares if it is a good idea or not? Please don't answer this question, it is rhetorical. And list activity is a poor measure of the activity of the project. My ASSP v2 installs are stable, working well, and not c

Re: [Assp-user] ASSP effectiveness

2016-03-03 Thread Pascal Dreissen
You have probably subscribed with an alias or forwarding address, your e-mail cannot be found in the subscribers list! > On 03 Mar 2016, at 17:29, Gene Steinberg wrote: > > I did. > > Didn’t work. > > Just remove me, OK? > > >> On Mar 3, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Doug Lytle wrote: >> > On Mar

Re: [Assp-user] ASSP Development was -> ASSP effectiveness

2016-03-03 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
Really best to start a new thread with a new subject rather than change topics on an existing. On Thursday, March 03, 2016 04:39:14 PM Raynaud Alexandre wrote: > Hi, > I think you have already explained enough your wish for ASSP development and > it is quite legitimate to express and share. The a

Re: [Assp-user] Ver 2.4.7 16036 CPU Load

2016-03-03 Thread Lee Howard
Forgive me for jumping into this mid-discussion, and admittedly I have not read every word of this thread, but... I have understood that there are two primary points that William is promoting: 1) breaking-up the installation so that it becomes more-integrated with the system - such as logs goi

Re: [Assp-user] ASSP effectiveness

2016-03-03 Thread Doug Lytle
>>> On Mar 3, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Gene Steinberg genesteinb...@mac.com wrote: >>> Didn’t work. >>> Just remove me, OK? I just subscribe to this list, I'm not an admin. Doug -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility in

Re: [Assp-user] ASSP effectiveness

2016-03-03 Thread Doug Lytle
>>> On Mar 3, 2016, at 11:21 AM, Gene Steinberg genesteinb...@mac.com wrote: >>> I have sent several requests for removal from this list, and I keep getting >>> these mailings. Gene, You need to go to the below link to manage your subscriptions, Doug https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/list

Re: [Assp-user] ASSP effectiveness

2016-03-03 Thread Thomas Eckardt
>Whoever is responsible: Nobody else than you! List-Unsubscribe: , < mailto:assp-user-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> This information can be found in every mail (header) Thomas Von:Gene Steinb

Re: [Assp-user] ASSP effectiveness

2016-03-03 Thread Gene Steinberg
I did. Didn’t work. Just remove me, OK? > On Mar 3, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Doug Lytle wrote: > On Mar 3, 2016, at 11:21 AM, Gene Steinberg genesteinb...@mac.com wrote: > I have sent several requests for removal from this list, and I keep getting these mailings. > > Gene, > > You

Re: [Assp-user] griplist reliability

2016-03-03 Thread Thomas Eckardt
I've made some corrections at the GRIPLIST database at SF. It will take up to three days until all the changes are distributed. But currently it looks like, that there are more good IP addresses reported by assp hosts than bad IP addresses. I'll run some statistic scripts over the next days to

Re: [Assp-user] ASSP effectiveness

2016-03-03 Thread Gene Steinberg
I have sent several requests for removal from this list, and I keep getting these mailings. Whoever is responsible: Read your requests and act accordingly. > On Mar 3, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Raynaud Alexandre > wrote: > > Hi, > I think you have already explained enough your wish for ASSP developm

Re: [Assp-user] ASSP effectiveness

2016-03-03 Thread Raynaud Alexandre
Hi, I think you have already explained enough your wish for ASSP development and it is quite legitimate to express and share. The author has already stated its views. So now what else? Wanna push him to do something he doesn't need necessary to do? This attitude is not rational. If the author doe

[Assp-user] ASSP effectiveness

2016-03-03 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
This is some what comical, ASSP is so effective, that its hurting itself it seems. I have seen this in my rebuild reports for some time now. mail1 Mar-03-16 01:06:22 Corpus norm: 0.3024 - (warning: extremely ham heavy) Mar-03-16 01:06:22 Corpus confidence: 0.12039657 Mar-03-16 01:06:22 Corpus

Re: [Assp-user] Ver 2.4.7 16036 CPU Load

2016-03-03 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thursday, March 03, 2016 07:52:42 AM Thomas Eckardt wrote: > >so most > >anything people are running is either Unix based or Windows. > > AGAIN: assp is build to run on ALL OS - there are more than unix, linux, > wndows and OSX I doubt ASSP is running on many OS if any that are not Unix based

Re: [Assp-user] griplist reliability

2016-03-03 Thread Thomas Eckardt
I'm still working on this. Thomas Von:aquilinux An: For Users of ASSP Datum: 03.03.2016 10:20 Betreff:[Assp-user] griplist reliability HI all, i used to use griplist (upload/download) for a couple of years, but recently i see more and more spam mail getting their score

[Assp-user] griplist reliability

2016-03-03 Thread aquilinux
HI all, i used to use griplist (upload/download) for a couple of years, but recently i see more and more spam mail getting their score lowered by the griplist match. is this feature still reliable to use? do you use it? have you lately noticed this behaviour too? regards, -- "Madness, like smal