CL> Ich denke da kommt die redre Regex Liste ins Spiel.
genau.
CL> Oder isses so, das gar nicht der Max in der redlist steht sondern derjenige
CL> der ihm eine Email sendet, dann einen Abwesenheitsnotiz auslöst und dadurch
CL> auf die redlist kommt und die Aufnahme in die Whitelist unterdrückt?
Stefan Palan schrieb:
> Hallo Christian,
>
> Auf die Redlist setzt du als Admin die Adresse deines Mitarbeiters Max
> Mustermann, sodass Spams an ihn nicht automatisch auf die Whitelist kommen,
> wenn dein Mailserver eine Abwesenheitsnotiz schickt. Wenn also der Freund von
> deinem Mitarbeiter
Hallo Christian,
Auf die Redlist setzt du als Admin die Adresse deines Mitarbeiters Max
Mustermann, sodass Spams an ihn nicht automatisch auf die Whitelist kommen,
wenn dein Mailserver eine Abwesenheitsnotiz schickt. Wenn also der Freund von
deinem Mitarbeiter Max ihm eine Nachricht schickt pas
Es kann doch aber dann sein das eine Emailadresse in der Whitelist und der
Redlist drin steht?
Also, ein Mitarbeiter bekommt schon immer von seinem Freund Emails , also ist
er auf der Whitelist. Im Urlaub wird aber dann eine Abwesenheitsnotiz
verschickt. Damit kommt der Freund auf die Redlist.
Hallo Stefan, Hallo Matti,
was passiert dann wenn die Urlaubsbenachrichtigung wieder abgeschalten wird?
Verfällt dann der Redlist Eintrag?
Christian
Matti Haack schrieb:
> ^Bzw. kann man über eine Regex Mails mit begriffen wie
> "Urlaubsnachricht", "Abwesenheistnachricht","Precedence Bulk" etc
>
^Bzw. kann man über eine Regex Mails mit begriffen wie
"Urlaubsnachricht", "Abwesenheistnachricht","Precedence Bulk" etc
filtern, damit automatisch erstellte Email nicht zur Whitlist
beitragen können.
Matti
SP> Auf der Redlist hast du Adressen, die nicht zur Whitelist
SP> beitragen und die nicht
Hi Christian,
Let me try:
Auf der Redlist hast du Adressen, die nicht zur Whitelist beitragen und die
nicht als lokal betrachtet werden, auch wenn sie von einem lokalen PC stammen.
Beispielsweise hat Max Mustermann in deinem Unternehmen eine
Abwesenheitsnachricht eingerichtet, die auf jedes an
Hello,
is there any german describtion was redlisting is?
Thanks for help
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tti Haack
> Subject: Re[2]: [Assp-user] redlist giving me a hell of a time
> To: "Spyros Tsiolis"
> Date: Saturday, 10 January, 2009, 1:23 PM
> ST> Is that true people ? Can I do the same for v1.2.6 to
> v1.4.3 ?
> Yes, it's so easy.
> Maybe you need some add
Hello Jeroen !
Fritz ! :
> May I add that upgrading from 1.3.1 to 1.4.3 is about as
> easy as can be.
> You unzip the new one, copy over the contents of the ASSP
> directory into
> your old version, restart assp and everything works (make a
> backup to be
> sure).
>
> Greetings,
> Jeroen
GrayHat wrote:
> About the "old version", well... I already suggested you
> to upgrade to the latest 1.4.x (it isn't all that difficult) but
> in any case I don't think it's a version issue
May I add that upgrading from 1.3.1 to 1.4.3 is about as easy as can be.
You unzip the new one, copy over t
. . . Meaning I have to sit down and read what redre does :-)
Thanks for the feedback Fritz. I _will_ behave ! :-)
Best regards,
s.
--- On Tue, 30/12/08, Fritz Borgstedt wrote:
> From: Fritz Borgstedt
> Subject: Re: [Assp-user] redlist giving me a hell of a time
> To: "
sts...@yahoo.co.uk schreibt:
>
>Don't worry anyway. I am upgrading ASAP so, there'll be a new
>bunch of issues to keep me awake at night :-)
Upgrading will not change the behaviour of redre and other core
features of ASSP.
fritz
Hi Fritz !
:-)
--- On Tue, 30/12/08, Fritz Borgstedt wrote:
> Date: Tuesday, 30 December, 2008, 7:48 PM
> sts...@yahoo.co.uk schreibt:
> >here's the transcript from the logs option on ASSP
> :
> >
> >Dec-30-08 11:30:47 ip.add.re.ss to:
> recei...@x.x
> >Regex:Red
> > 'Content
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
schreibt:
>
>Please provide DETAILED description of the exact problem you are
>having.
>
>Also, please provide details of your environment: ASSP version,
>OS/platform, etc
>
>Lastly, logs - BOTH ASSP AND SMTP - of an event showing the pr
sts...@yahoo.co.uk schreibt:
>here's the transcript from the logs option on ASSP :
>
>Dec-30-08 11:30:47 ip.add.re.ss to: recei...@x.x
>Regex:Red
> 'Content-Type: multip'
>Dec-30-08 11:30:47 ip.add.re.ss to: recei...@x.x
>Whitelisted
> Domain
>
>I suspect from
Hello spyros,
I think you need to step back and start over...
Please provide DETAILED description of the exact problem you are having.
Also, please provide details of your environment: ASSP version,
OS/platform, etc
Lastly, logs - BOTH ASSP AND SMTP - of an event showing the problem...
Right n
the above, that the message does _not_ get delivered to
the receivers' mailbox.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Best Regards,
spyros
--- On Mon, 29/12/08, Fritz Borgstedt wrote:
> From: Fritz Borgstedt
> Subject: Re: [Assp-user] redlist giving me a hell of a time
> T
sts...@yahoo.co.uk schreibt:
>If it's not the Red List, what is it then ?
>
>Is it a version issue ? (the version being far too old?).
>
>regards,
What is "it" ?
fritz
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> Hi Fritz,
>
> If it's not the Red List, what is it then ?
> Is it a version issue ? (the version being far too old?).
Ok, I'm not Fritz, but... I'd still like some more details
about your "issue" (if any); I mean, what's happening ?
Please add as much details as possible, otherwise it
will be d
Hi Fritz,
If it's not the Red List, what is it then ?
Is it a version issue ? (the version being far too old?).
regards,
.s
--- On Mon, 29/12/08, Fritz Borgstedt wrote:
> From: Fritz Borgstedt
> Subject: Re: [Assp-user] redlist giving me a hell of a time
> To: "ASSP
sts...@yahoo.co.uk schreibt:
>
>OK, I am almost fedup with the red list. That's ASSP v1.2.6 (still)
>and
>RedList blocks mail that it shouldn't.
Redlist does not block anything.
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> Anyway. I don't have time for this. Could anyone please direct me
> how to shut down completely RedList control on ASSP v1.2.6.
well... just empty the redlist file (backup it first btw) at any rate
I'd suggest you to upgrade to the latest 1.4.x series asap
---
Hello list,
OK, I am almost fedup with the red list. That's ASSP v1.2.6 (still) and
RedList blocks mail that it shouldn't.
Anyway. I don't have time for this. Could anyone please direct me how
to shut down completely RedList control on ASSP v1.2.6.
Thank you very much people and a Happy New Year
Fritz Borgstedt wrote:
> I will not change redlist functionality. It is getting to complicated.
I thought those of us wondering about it were in agreement: a new
feature so the redRe wont contribute to the corpus - preferably with an
on/off toggle.
Of is it the implementation that would be too
>This sounds ok to me to as long as there is an option like
>NoRedReSpamLog or something like that to enable/disable it.
I will not change redlist functionality. It is getting to complicated.
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On 8/3/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fritz Borgstedt wrote:
> > Would it be sufficient, to have the redlist doing this or should redre
> > doing the same?
>
> That's a great question. I think it would be beneficial to split the
> functionality, and have it only effect the re
Fritz Borgstedt wrote:
> Would it be sufficient, to have the redlist doing this or should redre
> doing the same?
That's a great question. I think it would be beneficial to split the
functionality, and have it only effect the redRe. Certainly, and email
addresses can be added to that if absolu
Fritz,
Yes, I know that the mail would be saved in the incomingOkMail
directory if it exists and if it doesn't then it wouldn't be saved at
all. Also, did you read the quote I pasted on what I used to think
Redlist functionality was. It would be nice if the Redlist functioned
the way I thou
>Of course since it doesn't function like that, to get the same
>affect, change the default saving location of Bayesian non-spam to 4;
>by changing it to 4, incoming non-spam email won't get saved to the
>notspam directory and manually whitelist all senders of list emails
>or legitimate spam. Net
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
schreibt:
>Prevent additions to the corpus.
>
>So for instance if i was sent an email from someone on the redlist
>ASSP would process the message but not add the processed message to
>the spam corpus (if it was determined to be spam).
>
It would be nice if the redlist functioned in the way I described it
functioning in my post earlier today (I have pasted the redlist portion
of the post below). Of course since it doesn't function like that, to
get the same affect, change the default saving location of Bayesian
non-spam to 4;
On 8/2/06, Fritz Borgstedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
> schreibt:
> >Though it is sad, i would have liked it to do what we thought it did.
> >(did that make sense?)
>
>
> What do you think, the redlist/redre should do?
>
Prevent addit
geniusfreak wrote:
> Though it is sad, i would have liked it to do what we thought it did.
> (did that make sense?)
>
It did - and I agree, if only to make myself feel right - J/K. I think
it would be a great feature.
-
geniusfreak wrote:
I think we have a new feature request... :)
I think I'm gonna go stick my head in the sand! (Sorry for the
wild-goose chase.) But if anything good can come of this, I can only
hope. I have to agree, I cant think of a good reason why Redlisted
email should go into t
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
schreibt:
>Though it is sad, i would have liked it to do what we thought it did.
>(did that make sense?)
What do you think, the redlist/redre should do?
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Take S
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
schreibt:
>
>The redlist is for addresses you always want to be processed no
>matter what?
>Redlisted email DO contribture to the spam folder?
I will repeat it again: the redlist/redre will prevent unwanted
additions to the whitelist -
On 8/2/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Everyone - I'm really sorry about this.
>
Humans make mistakes. It happens. No worries!
Though it is sad, i would have liked it to do what we thought it did.
(did that make sense?)
Kevin
-
On 8/2/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If thats true then I am operating on some outdated knowledge in regards to
> the Redlist or more likely I am confusing the Redlist functionality with
> another product. I apologize for the confusion.
>
I think we have a new feature req
I realize that now. I was confusing products.
Everyone - I'm really sorry about this.
Fritz Borgstedt wrote:
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
schreibt:
Its because of the TestRE match. Disable the TestRE and try again.
Wrong. The Testre
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
schreibt:
>Its because of the TestRE match. Disable the TestRE and try again.
Wrong. The Testre does nothing. Micheal, you are completely wrong
regarding redlist.
-
If thats true then I am operating on some outdated knowledge in regards
to the Redlist or more likely I am confusing the Redlist functionality
with another product. I apologize for the confusion.
Crap. I need to perform my own tests and figure out how I got my wires
crossed on this one.
Fri
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
schreibt:
>Something is wrong then. Check your logs, turn on debug, and verify
>what is happening during your test.
Micheal, I really do not know, what you are talking.
The Redlist/Redre conrols unwanted additions to the whitelist - *
Its because of the TestRE match. Disable the TestRE and try again.
geniusfreak wrote:
On 8/2/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What in this log should be Redlisted?
The remote email address.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
According to what i understand of the Re
On 8/2/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What in this log should be Redlisted?
>
The remote email address.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
According to what i understand of the RedList the email should have
been flagged by the bayesian but not added to the spam folder like it
was.
Kevin
What in this log should be Redlisted?
geniusfreak wrote:
On 8/2/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Something is wrong then. Check your logs, turn on debug, and verify what
is happening during your test.
I have 2 debug logs that I was able to capture
On 8/2/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Something is wrong then. Check your logs, turn on debug, and verify what
> is happening during your test.
>
I have 2 debug logs that I was able to capture during the middle of the night.
However nothing stood out to me as to why.
As
Something is wrong then. Check your logs, turn on debug, and verify
what is happening during your test.
geniusfreak wrote:
On 8/2/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
*Redlisted mail does not enter the corpus*. That's it - period.
Actually i found after
On 8/2/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> *Redlisted mail does not enter the corpus*. That's it - period.
Actually i found after testing it, that it did.
I redlisted an external email address. (and confirmed it)
Then i sent from that email address to myself.
The email was ta
? Whitelisted email goes into the notspam directory - by default.
Whitelisted and Bayesian OK are not the same thing.
Travis Forghani wrote:
How would whitelisting add to the corpus when incoming whitelisted mail
doesn't go into the notspam directory (by default)?
sincerely,
Travis
How would whitelisting add to the corpus when incoming whitelisted mail
doesn't go into the notspam directory (by default)?
sincerely,
Travis Forghani
IT Administrator
Bowman Enterprises, Inc.
Cell: 919-795-9298
Office: 919-894-3662, Ext. 34
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This message is intended only f
*Redlisted mail does not enter the corpus*. That's it - period. I
didn't respond to what Luke wrote - I responded to your statements
about "message ok" and logging destinations.
Redlisted email is still subject to additional processing, such as
Bayesian calculations, RE matching, etc. It ju
I am completely confused now. The Show Redlist/Whitelist interface
states the following:
"The redlist is not a blacklist. The redlist is a list of addresses
that cannot contribute to the whitelist, and who are not considered
local, even if their mail is from a local computer. For example, if
I think you are confusing notspamlog (whitelisted) with baysNonSpamLog
(Bayesian message ok). Redlisted mail *wont* go into the corpus no
matter what baysNonSpamLog (message ok) option is.
baysNonSpamLog coincides with incomingOkMail, which by default is
blank/disabled (does not get saved).
We don't want Redlisted senders to contribute to the spamdb. The
defualt setting for mailok is 4. Since we redlist a sender it won't be
classified as spam and since the mailok option is 4, it won't be put in
the notspam directory. I don't see why someone would change the
default as that crea
On 7/31/06, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Redlisted (redlist or redRe) matches do not contribute to the corpus -
> period. That is the sole purpose of the Redlist. Other processing may
> take place, but the final result will not be contributed to the corpus.
>
> geniusfreak wro
Redlisted (redlist or redRe) matches do not contribute to the corpus -
period. That is the sole purpose of the Redlist. Other processing may
take place, but the final result will not be contributed to the corpus.
geniusfreak wrote:
> Ok, I need to settle a debate about the RedList.
>
> Does a
Ok, I need to settle a debate about the RedList.
Does a RedListed email address contribute to the spam/notspam corpus?
It was my understanding that the RedList was for addresses that you
wanted to filter but did not want to contribute to the spam corpus.
According to the RedList note in 1.2.4(6)
If the redlist isn't a whitelist that doesn't add to the corpus, then
what is it? Yes, you can't add, via the email interface, a sender to
whitelist if they are on the redlist; however, you can add a sender
that is redlisted to the whitelist manually. But adding a sender to
the whitelist that
Fritz Borgstedt wrote:
> I can not understand, because the redlist prevents adresses from
> entering the whitelist.
Think of it in terms of cleaning-up after itself. As an example:
Perhaps you notice that something is polluting (unbalancing) the corpus,
so you redlist the address - but the cor
>I can understand the misconception in comparison to white listing
>functionality, but no - red listing does not perform corpus removals.
I can not understand, because the redlist prevents adresses from
entering the whitelist.
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>Isn't a redlist a whitelist that doesn't add to the corpus?
No.
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I can understand the misconception in comparison to white listing
functionality, but no - red listing does not perform corpus removals.
Daily, I run a batch script that removes noProcessing and redlist
addressed emails from my corpus's.
Travis Forghani wrote:
Isn't a redlist a whitelist t
Isn't a redlist a whitelist that doesn't add to the corpus? Isn't
whitelisted email removed from the spam directory unless configured not
to be? And if the redlist is a whitelist that doesn't add to the
corpus, then the email that the system tagged as spam that has been
redlisted should also
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
schreibt:
>If the system tags an email as spam and I redlist it, will the system
>remove the email from the spam directory?
why should it? where did you find such an idea?
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If the system tags an email as spam and I redlist it, will the system
remove the email from the spam directory?
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Cell: 919-795-9298
Office: 919-894-3662, Ext. 34
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