Re: [Assp-user] Smarthost

2009-04-08 Thread Melvin
Jeroen van Aart wrote: > Melvin wrote: > >> into that about 3 years back with was at that time Bellsouth, now AT&T. >> While they had blocked outbound smtp(25) for a long time, running a >> > > Of course if you're using at&t as your ISP (or another big name with > deteriorated morals su

Re: [Assp-user] Smarthost

2009-04-07 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Melvin wrote: > into that about 3 years back with was at that time Bellsouth, now AT&T. > While they had blocked outbound smtp(25) for a long time, running a Of course if you're using at&t as your ISP (or another big name with deteriorated morals such as comcast) then of course you're asking t

Re: [Assp-user] Smarthost

2009-04-04 Thread Melvin
Jeroen van Aart wrote: > >> Obviously my above doesn't apply to someone paying for commercial >> service and hosting their own servers... but it would also be >> > > Though my static IP is from a "consumer level" internet connection I do > expect that if I pay extra for a static IP I should

Re: [Assp-user] Smarthost

2009-04-04 Thread Charles Marcus
On 4/3/2009, Jeroen van Aart (jer...@mompl.net) wrote: > Though my static IP is from a "consumer level" internet connection I do > expect that if I pay extra for a static IP I should be able to use it > what it's meant for. i.e. running certain services such as email and > websites, of course wi

Re: [Assp-user] Smarthost

2009-04-03 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Charles Marcus wrote: > On 4/3/2009 4:18 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: >>> complain about not being able to connect because their formerly >>> irresponsible but now-finally-getting-on-board ISP started blocking >>> outbound port 25. > >> I don't think blocking port 25 is irresponsible per se. > > R

Re: [Assp-user] Smarthost

2009-04-03 Thread Charles Marcus
On 4/3/2009 4:18 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: >> complain about not being able to connect because their formerly >> irresponsible but now-finally-getting-on-board ISP started blocking >> outbound port 25. > I don't think blocking port 25 is irresponsible per se. Read it again... I said it was IRre

Re: [Assp-user] Smarthost

2009-04-03 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Charles Marcus wrote: > compain about not being able to connect because their formerly > irresponsible but now-finally-getting-on-board ISP started blocking > outbound port 25. I don't think blocking port 25 is irresponsible per se. I would not like my ISP to block port 25 when I am paying extra

Re: [Assp-user] Smarthost

2009-04-02 Thread Charles Marcus
On 4/1/2009 8:59 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: > I don't know which ports you tell them to connect to, but those should > only be 587 (tls) and, if necessary but preferably not, 465 (ssl) to > support older broken clients. If they use port 25 then of course your > first step would be to get them to

Re: [Assp-user] Smarthost

2009-04-01 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Hisham wrote: > Thanks Jeroen, very interesting setup. I'll have to investigate how to > implement the same on my Communigate pro mailserver without forcing > users to change the connection port. I don't know which ports you tell them to connect to, but those should only be 587 (tls) and, if ne

Re: [Assp-user] Smarthost

2009-03-31 Thread Hisham
Thanks Jeroen, very interesting setup. I'll have to investigate how to implement the same on my Communigate pro mailserver without forcing users to change the connection port. Jeroen van Aart wrote: > GrayHat wrote: >>> For outbound as example : >>> >>> user -> mailserver -> ASSP -> same mailse

Re: [Assp-user] Smarthost

2009-03-26 Thread Jeroen van Aart
GrayHat wrote: >> For outbound as example : >> >> user -> mailserver -> ASSP -> same mailserver -> internet. >> >> Is this possible, won't this create email loops ? > > No, it isn't possible (not as you described it), and yes, that > would create a mail loop, the config is the following > > user

Re: [Assp-user] Smarthost

2009-03-25 Thread GrayHat
>> In this case for outbound, I think the easiest way is to setup >> 'sendmail' mail server > Actually, postfix would be MUCH 'easier'... Well... ok, postfix will do as well, the idea is just to have an SMTP engine listening on a separate ip or port and configured to route outbound messages --

Re: [Assp-user] Smarthost

2009-03-25 Thread Charles Marcus
On 3/25/2009, Hisham (his...@sf.batelco.com.bh) wrote: > In this case for outbound, I think the easiest way is to setup > 'sendmail' mail server Actually, postfix would be MUCH 'easier'... -- Apps built with the Adobe(R)

Re: [Assp-user] Smarthost

2009-03-25 Thread GrayHat
> Thanks Grayhat, > In this case for outbound, I think the easiest way is to setup > 'sendmail' mail server on the same ASSP box on deferent > port number. well... if you're running ASSP on the same box on which your mailserver is running then... yes, the solution is to setup things so that the se

Re: [Assp-user] Smarthost

2009-03-25 Thread Hisham
GrayHat wrote: >> For outbound as example : >> >> user -> mailserver -> ASSP -> same mailserver -> internet. >> >> Is this possible, won't this create email loops ? > > No, it isn't possible (not as you described it), and yes, that > would create a mail loop, the config is the following > > user

Re: [Assp-user] Smarthost

2009-03-25 Thread GrayHat
> For outbound as example : > > user -> mailserver -> ASSP -> same mailserver -> internet. > > Is this possible, won't this create email loops ? No, it isn't possible (not as you described it), and yes, that would create a mail loop, the config is the following user -> mailserver -> ASSP -> MTA

[Assp-user] Smarthost

2009-03-24 Thread Hisham
Hi, On one of the posts to this list, i remember reading something about having the same smtp server to act as inbound/outbound point where on the mailserver the smarthost will be the ASSP box. For outbound as example : user -> mailserver -> ASSP -> same mailserver -> internet. Is this possibl