Re: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread Steven Kalcevich
There are plenty of small dialup providers / DSL / colo providers out. Yes it will get harder but your statement is not correct. They wont just vanish. Expect much of the market to consolidate, dry up and eventually be taken over ny the ILECS, same as Dial Up, DSL and Dedicated Internet Access.

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread Paul
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 5 May 2005, Paul wrote: We really need to convince the regulators that mandatory 911 support for voip is senseless. Wireless 911 is based on the tower you are using at the time, not the wireless company you have an account with. Real 911 support for voip would pl

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread Mojo Jojo
Vonage already offered 911 but got sued anyway for not notifying some people the way they saw fit. I have had a Vonage account since they started and as far back as I can remember, they made me well aware of the 911 issues. They were sued anyhow because some jack wants to blame someone for his

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread Mojo Jojo
Well, until we have lots of extra lawyer money laying around, I want to stay as far from anything related to 911 as possible. I would rather say that we don't provide it or find a way to not provide it and make sure my customer knows this then be liable for someone dying because we had a router

[Asterisk-biz] Vonage Bows to 911 Pressure

2005-05-05 Thread Mike
Well i would agree with Paul here... Wireless ( Cell phones ) are tower based .. and cell users are moving around.. but the whole point is WHY would you be obliged to use 911 ? You know personally i called the cops 9 times in my life and always used local number for them .. Dont tel me you guy

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread Mojo Jojo
Geesh, thanks.. I guess I should just go put a bullet in my head.. Private Label Wholesale Internet Access! http://www.YourOwnISP.com - Original Message - From: "Greg Boehnlein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 12

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread alex
On Thu, 5 May 2005, Paul wrote: > We really need to convince the regulators that mandatory 911 support for > voip is senseless. Wireless 911 is based on the tower you are using at > the time, not the wireless company you have an account with. Real 911 > support for voip would place a burden on the

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread Paul
Vonage has finally figured it out. When they fought the regulators and won, they often won for all of us. Maybe they actually want the regulators to impose some requirements that will help eliminate some of the smaller voip providers/innovators. We really need to convince the regulators that ma

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread snacktime
On 5/5/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In order to deliver calls to selective router, you should first inquire > with whoever provides you with the origination service. *they* certainly > have LATA presence and can deliver the calls to it. Now, your carrier may > or may not provi

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread alex
On Thu, 5 May 2005, Preston Garrison wrote: > I think someone needs to stand up and start up a service that provide > E911 service based on a per call, or per customer level. Its a big > opportunity for someone to tap into a market that has not been tapped > into yet, and it would be a welcomed se

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread Preston Garrison
I think someone needs to stand up and start up a service that provide E911 service based on a per call, or per customer level. Its a big opportunity for someone to tap into a market that has not been tapped into yet, and it would be a welcomed service to many providers. getting your own E911 se

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread alex
On Thu, 5 May 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is something I've been wondering about. What does this mean for the > small US based VOIP providers? We don't have the cash or the resources > to partner with the verizon's of the world in order to provide E911 > Services. > If the ruling comes do

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Advertise On VoIPSupply.com

2005-05-05 Thread Rehan Ahmed AllahWala - Super Technologies I
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RE: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread Alex Pui
Are there many of your customers will solely rely on your service, if yes, that is a problem, otherwise if your customers like ours, still maintain their PSTN line for incoming and local call, it should not be a problem as long as you told them expressly that there is no 911 service, and may be you

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Thu, 5 May 2005, Ted Wallingford wrote: > On Thursday, May 05, 2005, at 01:56PM, Greg Boehnlein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >Anyone that got into the VoIP business and didn't do their homework (aka > >the entire Lemonade Stand, Reseller of a Reseller, Voice over Public > >Internet) i

Re: New iax2 softphone, was Re: [Asterisk-biz] OEM Softphones?

2005-05-05 Thread William Suffill
Do you plan on releasing a standard ring with it? Other than that it looks like a great start. Haven't played with it to hit any more snags. ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread Ted Wallingford
On Thursday, May 05, 2005, at 01:56PM, Greg Boehnlein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Anyone that got into the VoIP business and didn't do their homework (aka >the entire Lemonade Stand, Reseller of a Reseller, Voice over Public >Internet) is in trouble... >You cannot compete w/ the ILEC. You don'

Re[2]: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread Anonymous Account
Hello Chris, Thursday, May 5, 2005, 1:28:19 PM, you wrote: > - Original Message - > > Although know one knows yet, I doubt the same regulations will apply to all > types of voip service equally. Is there an organization that represents the interests of the "independents", the start-ups, t

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread Chris Ochs
- Original Message - > Anyone that got into the VoIP business and didn't do their homework (aka the entire Lemonade Stand, Reseller of a Reseller, Voice over Public Internet) is in trouble. Expect much of the market to consolidate, dry up and eventually be taken over ny the ILECS, same as D

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread William Suffill
Unless a viable solution to offer 911 becomes available to us as well we are in trouble. I'm not sure the best solution for the little guy but for the safety of the users we'll have to come up with something as an industry. ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list A

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Thu, 5 May 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is something I've been wondering about. What does this mean for the small > US based VOIP providers? We don't have the cash or the resources to partner > with the verizon's of the world in order to provide E911 Services. > > If the ruling comes d

[Asterisk-biz] More on west coast orig/term

2005-05-05 Thread David Josephson
I posted Is anyone interested in bulk US west coast termination, at significantly better rates than all-US? There seems to be a real gap in the market for wholesale toll-grade service, for enterprises that need better prices Sorry for the delay in the mail account. [EMAIL PROTECTED] works, pleas

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread bclem
This is something I've been wondering about. What does this mean for the small US based VOIP providers? We don't have the cash or the resources to partner with the verizon's of the world in order to provide E911 Services. If the ruling comes down, doesn't this essentially kill all of us small prov

[Asterisk-biz] Vonage bows to 911 pressure

2005-05-05 Thread Michael Welter
http://go.theregister.com/feed/http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/05/vonage_911_deal/ ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] NEEDED: Single DID in each of London, Paris, Tel Aviv

2005-05-05 Thread Rehan Ahmed AllahWala - Super Technologies I
you can buy them on www.virtualphoneline.com Rehan > I'd like to find a SIP or IAX delivered DID in each of London, Paris and > Tel Aviv. Recommendations requested. > > Thanks, > > ___ > Asterisk-Biz mailing list > Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com >

[Asterisk-biz] Advertise On VoIPSupply.com

2005-05-05 Thread Garrett Smith
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Re: [Asterisk-biz] US DIDs and PSTN Termination

2005-05-05 Thread Rehan Ahmed AllahWala - Super Technologies I
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RE: [Asterisk-biz] Requested: cisco 7960

2005-05-05 Thread Andy Slezak
Try voipsupply.com - I know they've received an influx of stock... Andy > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:07 PM > To: asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com > Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Requested: cisco 796

RE: [Asterisk-biz] ATA GSM

2005-05-05 Thread Michael Giagnocavo
Well, depends on the manufacturer. Anywhere from $40 to $65 FOB China depending on model and volume. -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Preston Garrison Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:03 PM To: asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com Subject:

RE: [Asterisk-biz] DID's in Singapore?

2005-05-05 Thread Rehan Ahmed AllahWala - Super Technologies I
we have them for 35$ a did available rehan > i'm interested in : > origination did's in : singapore, tokyo, usa/canada (toll free), brazil, > dubai, tel aviv, algeria, russia. > > Best regards > > -Message d'origine- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Ryan

Re: [Asterisk-biz] DID portal

2005-05-05 Thread Rehan Ahmed AllahWala - Super Technologies I
www.didx.org www.virtualphoneline.com didx allows any one to buy did;'s from anywhere in the world, by making a request then those request are visable to all members, to fullfill, when its fullfilled the person who requested it gets notified, and thus the provider makes a sale rehan > > if

Re: [Asterisk-biz] 100 sip phone wanted

2005-05-05 Thread Preston Garrison
Use the sipura 841, cheap, good phone.. i just ordered a bunch from voipsupply.com.. good guys give them a call :) Preston Garrison direct: 877-748-4142 fax: 310-774-3901 cell: 623-748-4140 -Original Message- From: Fabio Erri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asteri

Re: [Asterisk-biz] 100 sip phone wanted

2005-05-05 Thread Fabio Erri
Steve Totaro ha scritto: Good point. Polycom IP300 is a good phone at a good price, I would even call it cheap. Does this resort have CAT5 to all the rooms? No I don't. In fact I was wondering if ATAs (with 100 ports summary) was the best solution. What's your opinion? Thanks. -- Fabio Erri Int