Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Paul
Matthew Rubenstein wrote: >On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 19:45 -0500, Paul wrote: > > >>Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: >> >> >> >>>On 12/22/06, *Paul* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: >>> >>>See my post saying I was joking. Anyway, a battery or supercap takes >>>care of

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Matthew Rubenstein
On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 19:45 -0500, Paul wrote: > Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: > > > > > > > On 12/22/06, *Paul* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > See my post saying I was joking. Anyway, a battery or supercap takes > > care of that. It doesn't take long to er

[asterisk-biz] Need to setup a secure enviroments using SRTP/TLS. Is that possible with Asterisk ?

2006-12-21 Thread asterisk
One of my customers has a strong requeriment to enforce security on his new VoIP system, and I was thinking about using SNOM 320 phones (that already have support for SRTP / TLS for security issues under VoIP) However, as far as I heard, support for SRTP / TLS to ensure a secure VoIP enviroment is

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Matt Dunkin
This approach sounds like fun :) Try that. Thanks, Matt Dunkin Paul wrote: Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: On 12/22/06, *Paul* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: See my post saying I was joking. Anyway, a battery or supercap takes care of that. It doesn't take

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Paul
Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: > > > On 12/22/06, *Paul* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > See my post saying I was joking. Anyway, a battery or supercap takes > care of that. It doesn't take long to erase something as short a a key > pair. Another approach is

RE: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Craig Lawrence
China has strict copyright laws that prevent such things...so there should be no need to worry, h? Craig Lawrence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Arulraj Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 9:36 PM To: asterisk-biz@lists.digium.co

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Trixter aka Bret McDanel
On 12/22/06, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: See my post saying I was joking. Anyway, a battery or supercap takes care of that. It doesn't take long to erase something as short a a key pair. Another approach is to trigger some thermite and let the heat do the job. Or maybe the EMP from a nuclear

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Trixter aka Bret McDanel
On 12/21/06, C F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Realy??? How about cutting the power to the "thick steel case that is welded shut" so that the added "switches to detect case intrusion and immediately erase the flash device that store the crypto keys" just fail?? VISA requi

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Paul
See my post saying I was joking. Anyway, a battery or supercap takes care of that. It doesn't take long to erase something as short a a key pair. Another approach is to trigger some thermite and let the heat do the job. Or maybe the EMP from a nuclear explosion . C F wrote: > Realy???

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Matt Dunkin
Mike, I absolutely agree... If he wants to prevent them from copying the hard drive then by all means... I was just laying out the copyright issue. He would still be required to provide source, upon request, for the GPL parts. ;) I think the main goal here is protecting his work, not someone

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread C F
Realy??? How about cutting the power to the "thick steel case that is welded shut" so that the added "switches to detect case intrusion and immediately erase the flash device that store the crypto keys" just fail?? On 12/21/06, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Use an encry

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Paul
My post was 100% intended to be sarcastic. Those of us who understand the licenses already know that we can probably buy one system and copy at least 98% of it legally. Then we look at the remaining 2% and see that it is all derived from wikis, forums and mailing lists. So the idea of copyrighting

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Steve Totaro
Similar to how one vendor locks their machine down by license to MAC address. Took me all of five minutes to figure that out and change the MAC on another box and another half hour have a fully working "DEV" box. They also used Ioncube to scramble their code. That took a few days to find a l

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Mike Hammett
There's a difference between a copyright which is you legally saying that its yours and some sort of copy prevention. That's saying you couldn't store anything GPL on anything encrypted. If the man wants to do it, let the man do it. There are plenty of other places his competitors could copy

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Matt Dunkin
I think one of the first people to respond hit this right on the head... Asterisk is GPL and you cannot copyright something that is GPL however you can copyright your configuration files and gui. I would suggest writing your gui in something that can be compiled and requires a unique license co

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Paul
Use an encrypted file system. Store the crypto key in a flash memory device. Enclose everything in a thick steel case that is welded shut. Add some switches to detect case intrusion and immediately erase the flash device that stores the crypto keys. C F wrote: > While you at it, also make sure th

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Henry J. Cobb
> Apparently some people are "touched" by your inquiry. ;-) > > Mike Hammett ... > From: "Stephen Arulraj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Anybody has any idea how to protect your Linux box with a perfectly >> running asterisk in it? I live in China and when I put together one and >> sell it, it's likely

Re: [asterisk-biz] DIDs in 705

2006-12-21 Thread Henry.L.Coleman
Try Talknet they have just started a SIP service and were able to give me a local Peterborough (705) number (when no-one else could) Henry L.Coleman CEO *VoIP-PBX* 1-866-415-5355 Toronto Ontario Canada > Hi, > > Does anyone have DIDs in 705 (Collingwood, Barrie) Ontario? > > IAX preferred, but wi

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Apparently some people are "touched" by your inquiry. ;-) Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Stephen Arulraj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:36 AM Subject: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your

[asterisk-biz] DIDs in 705

2006-12-21 Thread Jerry
Hi, Does anyone have DIDs in 705 (Collingwood, Barrie) Ontario? IAX preferred, but willing to look at any type of service. Thanks in advance, J. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or upd

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread C F
While you at it, also make sure that whenever you are by a client, modify their hosts file to redirect asterisk.org, digium.com, and voip-info.org to your own website. What makes you think that they can't go to the above websites after you copy protect your box? And BTW, even after copy protecti

[asterisk-biz] looking for a vendor

2006-12-21 Thread Scott Ivory
I'm looking for the following. 1 x Polycom 430 1 x Aastra 9133i 2 x Grandstream Handytone 480 - or any similar AT adapter with STUN 1 x Grandstream GXV-3000 Are there any good vendors out there? Thanks, Scott ___ --Bandwidt

Re: [asterisk-biz] Hospitality IP Phone

2006-12-21 Thread Matt Dunkin
Brett, I have looked at those phones and they would work however the website only says they support the Mitel protocol... Is this not the case? Thanks, Matt Brett Nadalin wrote: Matt, Telematrix makes a hospitality SIP phone. It is a ruggedized phone made especially for the hotel environme

RE: [asterisk-biz] Hospitality IP Phone

2006-12-21 Thread Bill Gibbs
Yeah, I have a simple GE phone w/ a caller ID LCD that works fine, including lit buttons attached as my test phone, works fine with the various ATAs I have used (Sipura/Linksys, Grandstream, Dlink) Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bret

Re: [asterisk-biz] Free Hosted PBX (corrected version)

2006-12-21 Thread Shamsul Arefin
Flat Planet might send the call even before you finished entering the number .. On 12/21/06, Moshe Maeir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Excuse me - I pressed on the send button, before the email was finished, here is the corrected version ---

RE: [asterisk-biz] Hospitality IP Phone

2006-12-21 Thread Brett Nadalin
Matt, Telematrix makes a hospitality SIP phone. It is a ruggedized phone made especially for the hotel environment, however it does not have a display. Percipia is a Telematrix reseller, please let me know if you would like more information. Thanks, Brett

[asterisk-biz] Free Hosted PBX (corrected version)

2006-12-21 Thread Moshe Maeir
Excuse me - I pressed on the send button, before the email was finished, here is the corrected version - The Flat Planet Phone Co. is pleased to announce the beta launch of their services. What

[asterisk-biz] Free Hosted PBX service

2006-12-21 Thread Moshe Maeir
The Flat Planet Phone Co. is pleased to announce the beta launch of their services. What will probably interest members of the list is our Hosted PBX service for Resellers. We will be offering it to members of the list for _free_ at least the next 6 months. The only charges will be for DIDs

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver
Stephen Arulraj a écrit : Anybody has any idea how to protect your Linux box with a perfectly running asterisk in it? I live in China and when I put together one and sell it, it's likely to get copied by someone else and soon you see clones appearing all over. How about a dongle of somesort?

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Andy Spring
Hi Stephen Arulraj, I am also living in China. Shenzhen, Guangdong, China, my mobile is 15999652770, if you also in shenzhen, maybe we can have a communication about your question face by face. Also we can have a dinner together. Best regards Andy Lau. E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN:[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Zoa
Oh i forgot, You could use copy protection with a dongle for the Asterisk part only, if you buy a commercial license from digium. And if you use BSD instead of linux you could protect that part too. Zoa. Stephen Arulraj wrote: Anybody has any idea how to protect your Linux box with a perfect

Re: [asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Zoa
Well, its pretty easy, make very tough copy protection, with a dongle, serial codes, systems that call home, a box welded down that explodes when you open it... And then include a DVD with the sources for everything as you are using GPL software (both linux and Asterisk). The only thing you co

[asterisk-biz] Copy protect your Asterisk Box

2006-12-21 Thread Stephen Arulraj
Anybody has any idea how to protect your Linux box with a perfectly running asterisk in it? I live in China and when I put together one and sell it, it's likely to get copied by someone else and soon you see clones appearing all over. How about a dongle of somesort?

RE: [asterisk-biz] Hospitality IP Phone

2006-12-21 Thread Dean Collins
Definitely one of the reasons almost every appliance should now have a built in Ethernet port and associated webserver hard built into the appliance. I know the Miele washer and dryer we bought had a proprietary computer interface the technician connected up to with his laptop, I cant understand w