Re: [asterisk-biz] Checking Carrier Reliability?

2007-08-03 Thread Wasim Baig
On 8/3/07, Douglas Garstang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What techniques do people use for checking ITSP (IP->SIP) carrier > reliability? > > There's different categories of realiability. > > The first would be call completion rates. It's fairly easy to check for > timeouts, bad SIP response cod

Re: [asterisk-biz] Least Cost Routing Rates

2007-08-03 Thread Wasim Baig
On 8/4/07, Douglas Garstang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I need something that can LCR not based just on cost, but also on jitter > and latency. :) Try ASTPP, also in Perl. There is work underway in making it modular and classes based by next release. Moreover there is talk to use the same un

Re: [asterisk-biz] SIP to PSTN Hardware

2007-08-03 Thread Arya
Steve Totaro can you tell me if if you used Asterisk to do this? what do you recommend? On 8/3/07, Steve Totaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why do you say this? I am just curious. I have done countless installs > where a server was used strictly as ISDN<-> media gateway. Never had a > proble

Re: [asterisk-biz] Least Cost Routing Rates

2007-08-03 Thread Douglas Garstang
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jean-Michel Hiver >Sent: Fri 8/3/2007 4:45 PM >To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion >Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Least Cost Routing Rates > >Le Sat, 04 Aug 2007 02:42:33 +0400, Douglas Garstang ><[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [asterisk-biz] Least Cost Routing Rates

2007-08-03 Thread Douglas Garstang
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Alex Balashov >Sent: Fri 8/3/2007 4:44 PM >To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion >Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Least Cost Routing Rates > >On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Douglas Garstang wrote: > >> Assuming you used several

Re: [asterisk-biz] SIP to PSTN Hardware

2007-08-03 Thread Steve Totaro
Why do you say this? I am just curious. I have done countless installs where a server was used strictly as ISDN<-> media gateway. Never had a problem with a single one of them. They are the strongest part of the large scale systems I have built. You do realize that the Cisco box is essentia

Re: [asterisk-biz] SIP to PSTN Hardware

2007-08-03 Thread Steve Totaro
Because SIP termination service is unreliable unless you and your provider control all of the variables. I guess you could use call waiting and three way but that would be the only way to have multiple calls on a single line. If you go with BRI, I do not believe that Digium makes those cards.

Re: [asterisk-biz] SIP to PSTN Hardware

2007-08-03 Thread Arya
Thanks for your reply so there is no reliable way of doing this with OpenSER and Asterisk? On 8/3/07, Alex Balashov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If carrier-grade reliability is such a central concern, chances are > you don't want to be terminating T1s into PC hardware anyway, and should > con

Re: [asterisk-biz] SIP to PSTN Hardware

2007-08-03 Thread Alex Balashov
If carrier-grade reliability is such a central concern, chances are you don't want to be terminating T1s into PC hardware anyway, and should consider investing in a Cisco or similar media gateway that can handle the ISDN<->SIP conversion for you. -- Alex Balashov Evariste Systems Web: http:/

Re: [asterisk-biz] SIP to PSTN Hardware

2007-08-03 Thread Alex Balashov
Well. With call waiting... :-) On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Arya wrote: > Hello > > Before I ask my question about the Digium cards, I would like to know if > there is any way of having more than 1 concurrent call on a PSTN line, Is > that possible? or would I need a BRI and Digium card is needed to do

Re: [asterisk-biz] SIP to PSTN Hardware

2007-08-03 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver
Le Sat, 04 Aug 2007 04:53:21 +0400, Arya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit: > Hello > > Before I ask my question about the Digium cards, I would like to know if > there is any way of having more than 1 concurrent call on a PSTN line, Is > that possible? or would I need a BRI and Digium card is needed to

Re: [asterisk-biz] SIP to PSTN Hardware

2007-08-03 Thread Rehan Allah Wala
why dont u just buy a sip termination service? u can then have unlimited out going channels Date sent: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 20:53:21 -0400 From: Arya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" Subject:[asterisk-biz] SIP to PSTN Hardware S

[asterisk-biz] SIP to PSTN Hardware

2007-08-03 Thread Arya
Hello Before I ask my question about the Digium cards, I would like to know if there is any way of having more than 1 concurrent call on a PSTN line, Is that possible? or would I need a BRI and Digium card is needed to do that? -- Thank You ___ --Bandw

Re: [asterisk-biz] Least Cost Routing Rates

2007-08-03 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver
Le Sat, 04 Aug 2007 02:42:33 +0400, Douglas Garstang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit: > Lots of questions from me today. > > > Assuming you used several ITSP's, and you wanted to do least cost > routing, does anyone have any suggestions as to the best way to manage > all the routes and their costs?

Re: [asterisk-biz] Least Cost Routing Rates

2007-08-03 Thread Alex Balashov
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Douglas Garstang wrote: > Assuming you used several ITSP's, and you wanted to do least cost > routing, does anyone have any suggestions as to the best way to manage > all the routes and their costs? There are a number of home-brewed and enterprise-strength LCR and genera

Re: [asterisk-biz] Least Cost Routing Rates

2007-08-03 Thread Alex Pilosov
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Douglas Garstang wrote: > Lots of questions from me today. > > > > Assuming you used several ITSP's, and you wanted to do least cost > routing, does anyone have any suggestions as to the best way to manage > all the routes and their costs? > > It would seem like it could e

Re: [asterisk-biz] DID carrier that supports forwarding of RDNIS info / Any out there?

2007-08-03 Thread Rehan Allah Wala
You can try them on Phone2net.com try the FREE TRIAL first Date sent: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 18:10:31 -0400 From: "Andrew Joakimsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" Subject:Re: [ast

[asterisk-biz] Least Cost Routing Rates

2007-08-03 Thread Douglas Garstang
Lots of questions from me today. Assuming you used several ITSP's, and you wanted to do least cost routing, does anyone have any suggestions as to the best way to manage all the routes and their costs? It would seem like it could easily be a full time job for someone. Would it be best t

Re: [asterisk-biz] DID carrier that supports forwarding of RDNIS info / Any out there?

2007-08-03 Thread Wasim Baig
On 8/4/07, Andrew Joakimsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am looking for a DID carrier that supports passing to me any > > rdnis/call forwarding details > > Likewise. > > ___ > --Bandwidth and C

Re: [asterisk-biz] DID carrier that supports forwarding of RDNIS info / Any out there?

2007-08-03 Thread Andrew Joakimsen
On 8/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am looking for a DID carrier that supports passing to me any > rdnis/call forwarding details Likewise. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mail

Re: [asterisk-biz] Checking Carrier Reliability?

2007-08-03 Thread Alex Balashov
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Douglas Garstang wrote: > Ok, so I haven't spoken to them yet, but it looks like their product > doesn't allow you to store QoS information realtime with an API to act > upon it. Pretty graphs etc aren't much use. I would speak to them. I've seen the whole caboodle demoe

Re: [asterisk-biz] Checking Carrier Reliability?

2007-08-03 Thread Douglas Garstang
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:54 AM > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Checking Carrier Reliability? > > On Fri, 3

Re: [asterisk-biz] Checking Carrier Reliability?

2007-08-03 Thread Douglas Garstang
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Pilosov > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:36 AM > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Checking Carrier Reliability? > > On Fri, 3 A

Re: [asterisk-biz] Checking Carrier Reliability?

2007-08-03 Thread Danny Froberg
Indeed! More than one good & reliable network operator has been shoot down because they have an HR department that hire morons... /Danny -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Pilosov Sent: den 3 augusti 2007 19:36 To: Commercial and Busines

Re: [asterisk-biz] Checking Carrier Reliability?

2007-08-03 Thread Douglas Garstang
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jared Smith > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:52 AM > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Checking Carrier Reliability? > > On Fri, 2007

Re: [asterisk-biz] Mobile Termination via GSM Gateways

2007-08-03 Thread Eric Chamberlain
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Steve Totaro wrote: > I see a few really annoying things with this: > > 1) How do you know what calls are going to what mobile network for your > routing? > > 2) Is it possible to set outgoing Caller*ID on a GSM card? If not, all > calls will show up as the phone number for

Re: [asterisk-biz] Mobile Termination via GSM Gateways

2007-08-03 Thread Eric Chamberlain
Are you looking for a specific application or information in general? There are a number of ways to interconnect depending on your usage. -- Eric Chamberlain, CISSP Chief Technical Officer Voxilla - http://voxilla.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: [asterisk-biz] Mobile Termination via GSM Gateways

2007-08-03 Thread Nate Carlson
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Steve Totaro wrote: > Unlimited plans. Family plans with many shared minutes (base charge plus > $10/mo per extra phone or SIM). I see a few really annoying things with this: 1) How do you know what calls are going to what mobile network for your routing? 2) Is it possible

Re: [asterisk-biz] Mobile Termination via GSM Gateways

2007-08-03 Thread Steve Totaro
Unlimited plans. Family plans with many shared minutes (base charge plus $10/mo per extra phone or SIM). When I was in war torn West Africa, you could not get a land line in any way shape or form. I met with the Minister of Telecom for Liberia and he had a phone on his desk which ironically did

Re: [asterisk-biz] Wanted: 2xSangoma A104D

2007-08-03 Thread Sérgio Araújo
Hi, > Does anyone have a good price for this card ? We are based in the UK. We can do 1652,26 EUR plus 26,20 EUR shipping costs, for 3-4 day delivery. We can also do 1652,26 EUR plus 43,88 EUR shipping costs, for 2 day delivery. Regards, -- Sérgio Araújo 3GNTW - Tecnologias de Informação, Lda

Re: [asterisk-biz] Mobile Termination via GSM Gateways

2007-08-03 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 01:52:52PM -0400, Alex Balashov wrote: > If you send enough traffic to a mobile carrier to warrant it, you might be > able to privately interconnect with them via TDM. Of course, they can be > very picky about this and generally will thumb their nose at you and tell > you

Re: [asterisk-biz] Checking Carrier Reliability?

2007-08-03 Thread Jared Smith
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 10:22 -0700, Douglas Garstang wrote: > What about dead air? How do you check for dead air? > > What about quality? If we're talking SIP traffic, one suggestion would be to look at the RTCP traffic coming back to you from the carrier, and see what type of jitter/packet loss/

Re: [asterisk-biz] Mobile Termination via GSM Gateways

2007-08-03 Thread Alex Balashov
If you send enough traffic to a mobile carrier to warrant it, you might be able to privately interconnect with them via TDM. Of course, they can be very picky about this and generally will thumb their nose at you and tell you to go through some ILEC's tandem unless you're Big and Important enoug

Re: [asterisk-biz] Checking Carrier Reliability?

2007-08-03 Thread Alex Balashov
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Douglas Garstang wrote: > What about dead air? How do you check for dead air? > > What about quality? > > What tools exist to proactively monitor call quality in real time? To the extent that any of this is possible to do on a media level, talk to Brix Networks (http://www.

Re: [asterisk-biz] Checking Carrier Reliability?

2007-08-03 Thread Alex Pilosov
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Douglas Garstang wrote: > What techniques do people use for checking ITSP (IP->SIP) carrier > reliability? I use retards test. If carrier's sales person sounds like a retard, I don't have to evaluate their network reliability. Similarly, if I ask them a technical question an

[asterisk-biz] Checking Carrier Reliability?

2007-08-03 Thread Douglas Garstang
What techniques do people use for checking ITSP (IP->SIP) carrier reliability? There's different categories of realiability. The first would be call completion rates. It's fairly easy to check for timeouts, bad SIP response codes etc. What about dead air? How do you check for dead air?

[asterisk-biz] Mobile Termination via GSM Gateways

2007-08-03 Thread Douglas Garstang
I was reading that if you want to terminate to cell phones, that sending the calls through a GSM (or whatever technology is locally available) gateway, is cheaper than sending the calls to the PSTN via T1/E1, Analog. How is that? I'm not sure how these devices work anyway. Does the gateway

Re: [asterisk-biz] Wholesale Routes Update

2007-08-03 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver
Le Fri, 03 Aug 2007 09:59:42 +0400, Mitul Limbani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit: > Jean, > > Quoting Jean-Michel Hiver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Hi List, >> >> I have a special on Reunion Island Proper (prefix +262 262) at 0.01 EUR >> / >> minute, 1/1 billing, capacity 2 E1, 30/30 billing terms.

Re: [asterisk-biz] [asterisk-users] Next Friday at 12:30 PM EDT: Asterisk Users Conference TDM inside and outside the box

2007-08-03 Thread Steve Totaro
I just tried to call in after creating an account. After the call connects, enter the show id: 22622# and your_PIN# I dial in and am asked for the podcast id, I enter 22622# and am told that my passcode is not correct. I also tried just entering my passcode but got the same error message. What

Re: [asterisk-biz] Next Friday at 12:30 PM EDT: Asterisk Users Conference TDM inside and outside the box

2007-08-03 Thread randulo
Hi folks, The August 3 edition of our Friday conference call and podcast kicks off in just over and hour. I know the list isn't delivering properly but if a few people get this it'll be better than none. We are going to be talking today about TDM inside and outside the box. I own some antiiquate

[asterisk-biz] DID carrier that supports forwarding of RDNIS info / Any out there?

2007-08-03 Thread mjoyner
I am looking for a DID carrier that supports passing to me any rdnis/call forwarding details passed from my Centrex DMS-100 to them back to me via standard sip headers. This is needed to be able to properly implement a sip trunked voice mail solution for my centrex dms-100. Thanks! Thanks! _

Re: [asterisk-biz] Port Your Numbers to DIDX

2007-08-03 Thread Bill Michaelson
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