Re: [asterisk-biz] New faxing protocol. Good/Bad ?

2008-06-03 Thread zoa
Store and forward is t.37 iirc Zoa Rehan Allah Wala wrote: Dear Dovid, This is a great Idea, I do not know if there is a seperate protocol for this yet, however I do know that many use what is called store and forward faxing techniques, and to me yours sound like the same. However

Re: [asterisk-biz] Videos of Asterisk-Tag.org online

2008-06-03 Thread | dave cantera |
stefan, thanks, these are Great to watch and get updated... daveC Stefan Wintermeyer wrote: Hi, for those who haven't been in Berlin for the Asterisk-Tag.org we have uploaded many talks (mostly the english once). You can find the videos and the slides on

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 05:23:07PM -0400, Dean Collins wrote: Ouch is it me or does this seem on the high side for a wholesale bundle (or is this retail and wholesale is 20-30% off dependant on volume). I would assume that's retail, yes. Computer people, and in my experience even

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 10:02 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: I would assume that's retail, yes. Computer people, and in my experience even Asterisk people, tend to forget how high the markup is on packaged telephony gear -- and more to the point, *why* it's that high. ok, why not providing

Re: [asterisk-biz] Videos of Asterisk-Tag.org online

2008-06-03 Thread randulo
The videos are also available here without the YouTube background: http://voipuserstv.com/ (Formerly asterisktv.com) On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:19 PM, | dave cantera | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stefan, thanks, these are Great to watch and get updated... daveC

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Trixter aka Bret McDanel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 10:02 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: I would assume that's retail, yes. Computer people, and in my experience even Asterisk people, tend to forget how high the markup is on packaged

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 12:01:08PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 10:02 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: I would assume that's retail, yes. Computer people, and in my experience even Asterisk people, tend to forget how high the markup is on packaged telephony gear -- and

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 12:01:08PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 10:02 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: I would assume that's retail,

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 12:01:08PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 10:02 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: I would assume that's retail, yes. Computer people, and in my experience even Asterisk people,

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 02:45:16PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 12:01:08PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 10:02 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: I would assume that's retail, yes.

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 14:17 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 12:01:08PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 10:02 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: I would assume that's retail, yes. Computer people, and in my experience even Asterisk people, tend to

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 02:45:16PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 12:01:08PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-03 at

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 15:26 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You didn't read what *I wrote*. I'm discussing telephony markups (40-50%, traditionally) vs PC markups (10%, on a good day, downhill, with a tailwind). You

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Alex Balashov
Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 15:26 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You didn't read what *I wrote*. I'm discussing telephony markups (40-50%, traditionally) vs PC markups (10%, on a good day,

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Alex Balashov
Alex Balashov wrote: The price can float more freely, far less anchored to the underlying production costs. To expand on this a little bit: Say you want to be a wheat farmer. Wheat doesn't have a lot of differentiation points that have a grandiose impact on price. Sure, there are

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Tim
Well this is getting silly -Original Message- From: Alex Balashov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:58 PM To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Craig Lawrence
I assume you're looking at this pricing - See page 25 - http://www.3com.com/other/pdfs/solutions/en_US/wsca_price.pdf The verison without phones and with 4 FXO 4 FXS is $1400 wholesale. Cheers Craig Lawrence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Alex Balashov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Balashov wrote: The price can float more freely, far less anchored to the underlying production costs. To expand on this a little bit: Say you want to be a wheat farmer. Wheat doesn't have a lot of

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Steve Totaro
That is what I would expect to pay for a real server with same day support (not an appliance) that can handle hundreds of calls and extensions. Add more for T1 or whatever. Then without running ABE, I can upsell all kinds of integration (even things the customer never thought of) and be a true

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Gregory Boehnlein
Horseshit, Steve. :-) then please enlighten us as to what the correct reason for why prices are that high. Because people will pay it. :) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To

[asterisk-biz] Altigen was : RE: PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of aKeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Alexander Lopez
I get a call from Altigen about once a week asking if we would like to be resellers of theirs. Has anyone on this list had any dealings with Altigen, They say they are based on a Linux based widely used PBX platform, I don't want to fork over the money to find out it's a Trixbox with some

Re: [asterisk-biz] OnSIP and any other centrex solutions

2008-06-03 Thread Rob Wolpov
Is there a call set up? Please send the details to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we can try to have someone from Junction Networks on the call. -Rob Wolpov On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 3:34 PM, randulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I myself am moving office in the next two weeks and we've signed up

Re: [asterisk-biz] Altigen was : RE: PBX Functionality for Less thanthe Price of aKeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Alexander Lopez
Sorry the company is Alworx.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Lopez Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:43 PM To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion Subject: [asterisk-biz] Altigen was : RE: PBX

Re: [asterisk-biz] Altigen was : RE: PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of aKeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Gregory Boehnlein
I get a call from Altigen about once a week asking if we would like to be resellers of theirs. Has anyone on this list had any dealings with Altigen, They say they are based on a Linux based widely used PBX platform, I don't want to fork over the money to find out it's a Trixbox with some

Re: [asterisk-biz] Altigen was : RE: PBX Functionality for Less thanthe Price of aKeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-03 Thread Gregory Boehnlein
Sorry the company is Alworx.. OK.. that is a different company. A former reseller of theirs refers to them as Nullworx now. He doesn't like them very much. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz