--- On Sun, 8/16/09, Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
> American Idol does their voting, or at least did, with
> early media only to avoid the MOU charges.
That's classic abuse. They in essence get millions(?) of
calls, get what they need to get done, and neither the
user nor America Idol pays fo
Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 01:12 -0400, Alex Balashov wrote:
>> Telcos see call setup as a series of billable events. If intercarrier
>> settlement worked anything like IP peering, the world would be a very,
>> very different place. For one, a lot of it would be set
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 01:12 -0400, Alex Balashov wrote:
> Telcos see call setup as a series of billable events. If intercarrier
> settlement worked anything like IP peering, the world would be a very,
> very different place. For one, a lot of it would be settlement-free.
>
> The carriers' obse
On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 21:38 -0700, Nitzan Kon wrote:
> We've seen the opposite lately- some toll free numbers would
> not answer the call, and instead play their IVR and let the
> user navigate the IVR for a few minutes without actually
> answering the call, so in essence they do not get billed
> f
Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
> This is similar to how internet peering fees are done except its based
> on bytes and not minutes.
Hugely important distinction: In Internet/packet-based business models,
billing is based on peak rate of transfer of bytes per unit of time
(i.e. second), NOT on
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 00:42 -0400, Peter Beckman wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2009, mroberts1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Some examples of ridiculous, frivolous and destructive arbitrage
> > opportunities?
>
> Let's not forget the whole Free Conference Calling Scheme using Iowa LECs
> to get paid a
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009, mroberts1...@gmail.com wrote:
> Some examples of ridiculous, frivolous and destructive arbitrage
> opportunities?
Let's not forget the whole Free Conference Calling Scheme using Iowa LECs
to get paid a lot of money just to take calls:
http://www.techdirt.com/blog.php?
We've seen the opposite lately- some toll free numbers would
not answer the call, and instead play their IVR and let the
user navigate the IVR for a few minutes without actually
answering the call, so in essence they do not get billed
for that time. Not sure if this is illegal/against regulations
b
Here's a good example... A couple of small LECs have gone to answering all
calls into their DIDs to play back messages that would normally be in band
"this number is disconnected" or "this number has been changed" type things
in early media... What does this mean to you? Well as the consumer callin
Some examples of ridiculous, frivolous and destructive arbitrage opportunities?
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-Original Message-
From: Alex Balashov
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:07:48
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Free DI
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:
> David Knell wrote:
>> On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 05:42 -0400, Alex Balashov wrote:
>>> Don't know about the UK, but any area in the US with deregulated local
>>> loop and higher than average access charges is generally happy to take
>>> inbound.
>>
David Knell wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 05:42 -0400, Alex Balashov wrote:
>> Don't know about the UK, but any area in the US with deregulated local
>> loop and higher than average access charges is generally happy to take
>> inbound.
>
> (Un)fortunately, things work a little bit differently i
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 05:42 -0400, Alex Balashov wrote:
> Don't know about the UK, but any area in the US with deregulated local
> loop and higher than average access charges is generally happy to take
> inbound.
(Un)fortunately, things work a little bit differently in the UK - the
access charge
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