On 05/14/2015 12:02 AM, Gavin Grabias wrote:
I will give some business coaching for anyone relying on income from
TFO.
Who said anyone was relying on income from TFO? And does taking your
advice mean that one should simply forget about collecting it, even when
a carrier promised it to you,
On Wed, 5/13/15, Gavin Grabias gav...@alcazarnetworks.com wrote:
Maybe he sends calls that aren’t collectable.
Teliax never disputed the amounts they owed us - they in fact kept telling us
that yes - we're owed this much - and payment is coming soon. The typical
run-around.
I have denied
So disappointing to hear Nitzan.
I've found that even when I don't think my customers are right, or I can
prove they aren't right, it is better for my own sanity and for my business
to make exceptions and provide a great experience and give refunds or send
money than to make up policies or
Hello list,
Short version:
Teliax owes us $833 for TF traffic we sent them between March-November 2014. To
date we have not received payment for any of this traffic, we keep getting
ignored, given the run-around (someone in accounting is looking at it), and
other excuses. BEWARE, AND DO NOT
... that he had essentially no chance of getting anyway. This way, he did
something to tilt the odds toward his favour, even if it isn't especially
likely to work. He also reported a useful fact that others should be aware of
when seeking payouts from Teliax.
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Alex Balashov | Principal |
Well said Peter.
-Jai
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Peter Beckman beck...@angryox.com wrote:
So disappointing to hear Nitzan.
I've found that even when I don't think my customers are right, or I can
prove they aren't right, it is better for my own sanity and for my business
to make
Unfortunately, I fear that sending the email to a public list may have cost him
his 855.00.
Alexander Lopez
OpSys Consulting Group
PO Box 49-1333
Key Biscayne, FL 33149
Tel: 305 503 3000 x 122
Help-desk: (305)503-3000 Option 0 or
Email: helpd...@opsys.com
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From:
Am 14.05.2015 um 01:01 schrieb Alexander Lopez:
Unfortunately, I fear that sending the email to a public list may have cost him
his 855.00.
I think he will get paid eventually. He just needs to keep nagging them
for 3 more months or so :)
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Am 13.05.2015 um 23:23 schrieb Nitzan Kon:
Hello list,
Short version:
Teliax owes us $833 for TF traffic we sent them between March-November 2014. To date we
have not received payment for any of this traffic, we keep getting ignored, given the
run-around (someone in accounting is looking at
On 05/13/2015 06:53 PM, Markus wrote:
Anyway, I think it sucks that you posted this message in order to put
pressure on them. The internet never forgets. Even if they didn't have
any intent to pay you (FWIW, *real* fraudsters just take your money and
run), this is not something that belongs on
There are some pretty harsh judgements being made here on a one sided tale. Do
I think anyone is lying? Probably not, but I am highly versed in the TFO
collection process. Everyone I have seen making comments truly has no idea
about the nature of the collections on this product. His contract is
The big guys' elementary livelihood and survival doesn't depend upon the
vicissitudes of such collections.
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Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC
303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300
Atlanta, GA 30346
United States
Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct)
Web:
Also, on the question of whether the vendor in question are fraudsters:
Sometimes, bureaucratic inanity is functionally indistinguishable from
wilful fraud, in the sense that someone who is contractually entitled to
a payment doesn't get paid.
It's the same basic reason as for the existence
Markus is right, the Internet never forgets. The Internet is going to remember
that Nitzan is the kind of guy who's not afraid to call bullshit on some
sclerotic monstrosity's inability to perform basic functions, to the extent
that if it were a child given food, it would starve because it's
On May 13, 2015, at 10:18 PM, Alex Balashov
abalas...@evaristesys.commailto:abalas...@evaristesys.com wrote:
:-)
But seriously:
1. Nitzan had virtually 0% chance of collecting prior to posting;
Maybe, perhaps he’s entitled to zero. Maybe he sends calls that aren’t
collectable. I can keep
On Thu, 14 May 2015, Markus wrote:
Am 14.05.2015 um 01:01 schrieb Alexander Lopez:
Unfortunately, I fear that sending the email to a public list may have cost
him his 855.00.
I think he will get paid eventually. He just needs to keep nagging them for 3
more months or so :)
And I think we
I think his chances or collecting will increase significantly if he shows up in
the Teliax lobby with an alligator. It just a hunch..
Original message
From: Alex Balashov abalas...@evaristesys.com
Date: 2015/05/13 11:06 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com
:-)
But seriously:
1. Nitzan had virtually 0% chance of collecting prior to posting;
2. To whatever extent his chances of collecting may have increased from
0% to merely negligible, he's done himself a favour;
3. He has no leverage in these situations;
4. As a small business, the negative
On 05/13/2015 11:49 PM, Gavin Grabias wrote:
Maybe, perhaps he’s entitled to zero. Maybe he sends calls that
aren’t collectable. I can keep going on with maybe.. Maybe we don’t
understand why.
Maybe. All completely possible. My position is premised on the truth of
the claims submitted
I will give some business coaching for anyone relying on income from TFO.
Start a church, with conference numbers.. maybe you can pull some recip comp.
Thats also a joke. I apparently need to be literal.
Gavin
On May 13, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Alex Balashov abalas...@evaristesys.com wrote:
Who promised something? There should be a contract that said customer can use
to enforce their claim. I think they may be relying upon it at some level.
Just assumptions. We all know how that goes.
Either way the customer has a possible claim and we are all arguing over an
intangible issue
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