Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-21 Thread Jared Geiger
A majority of messages are exchanged via IP and a minority are via SS7. But yes all carriers interconnect via SS7 however many also connect simultaneously with SMPP for intercarrier routing. The aggregator I work for does a couple hundred thousand via SS7 per day and 1.5 billion via IP using SMPP/

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-21 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 09:54:16AM -0500, Jared Geiger wrote: >Some SMSs are sent via SS7 but a majority are via IP in the SMPP >protocol. All high volume carriers use SMPP to interconnect with only a >small subset going over SS7. All carriers interconnect via SS7 (MAP/SS7). User inte

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-21 Thread Jared Geiger
Some SMSs are sent via SS7 but a majority are via IP in the SMPP protocol. All high volume carriers use SMPP to interconnect with only a small subset going over SS7. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Jarrod Lash wrote: > SMS messages are generally sent over the SS7 network. > > The online provide

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-20 Thread Jarrod Lash
SMS messages are generally sent over the SS7 network. The online providers take your message via their apis and drop them to ss7 links with the legacy telecom carriers. For in depth reading check out: http://www.ncs.gov/library/tech_bulletins/2003/tib_03-2.pdf and google -> sms ss7 -- Jarrod L

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-20 Thread Michael
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:53:37 C F wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Rehan Allah Wala wrote: > > if you are interested in wholesale sms's do let me know qty and target > > prices. > > > > I can run them out for you via earthsms.net > > I love the contact page on that website. Who designed

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-20 Thread C F
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Rehan Allah Wala wrote: > if you are interested in wholesale sms's do let me know qty and target prices. > > I can run them out for you via earthsms.net I love the contact page on that website. Who designed it for you? > > > > Rehan > >> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:0

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-20 Thread Michael Jerris
I had a long discussion with him on IM the other day. His issue does appear to be a very poor understanding of english combined with compulsive eagerness. I discussed at length ways that he might make some sense, and asked him to review our conversation with someone who knew english ( the

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-20 Thread Alex Balashov
If I told you I offer wholesale, aggressively priced jumping off bridges, would you... -- Sent from mobile device On Jan 20, 2010, at 3:11 AM, Info Info wrote: Yes i am interested in wholesale sms, please send me more details i...@jksoftwaresolutions.com On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-20 Thread Info Info
Yes i am interested in wholesale sms, please send me more details i...@jksoftwaresolutions.com On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Rehan Allah Wala wrote: > if you are interested in wholesale sms's do let me know qty and target > prices. > > I can run them out for you via earthsms.net > > > > Rehan

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-19 Thread Rehan Allah Wala
if you are interested in wholesale sms's do let me know qty and target prices. I can run them out for you via earthsms.net Rehan > On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:04:07 c.savinov...@itntelecom.com wrote: > > >>>what price per sms do you think could be achieved with the purchasing > > > > power that is

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-19 Thread Alex Balashov
Michael, On 01/19/2010 11:43 PM, Michael wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:11:20 c.savinov...@itntelecom.com wrote: > >> I disagree with you. First of all, silence may be indicative that the >> information may be too good to be shared. Second, SMS text messaging > > With that view I doubt they wo

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-19 Thread Michael
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:11:20 c.savinov...@itntelecom.com wrote: > I disagree with you. First of all, silence may be indicative that the > information may be too good to be shared. Second, SMS text messaging With that view I doubt they would even return your call. > reselling is a booming busin

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-19 Thread Alex Balashov
On 01/19/2010 11:11 PM, c.savinov...@itntelecom.com wrote: You may as well give up on this line of questioning because no one is >>> going to provide you first hand information. >>> This info is subject to strict NDAs and is a tightly guarded commercial >>> secret. Furthermore each carrier wil

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-19 Thread c . savinovich
>>>You may as well give up on this line of questioning because no one is >>going to provide you first hand information. >>This info is subject to strict NDAs and is a tightly guarded commercial >>secret. Furthermore each carrier will be on a different independently >>negotiated rate. >>You are at t

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-19 Thread Michael
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:04:07 c.savinov...@itntelecom.com wrote: > >>>what price per sms do you think could be achieved with the purchasing > > power that is "fair" enough ? > > What I am trying to find out is simple: What price can be obtained from a > *carrier* on a direct wholesale contract, and

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-19 Thread Alex Balashov
On 01/19/2010 10:04 PM, c.savinov...@itntelecom.com wrote: what price per sms do you think could be achieved with the purchasing > power that is "fair" enough ? > > What I am trying to find out is simple: What price can be obtained from a > *carrier* on a direct wholesale contract, and what

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-19 Thread c . savinovich
>>>what price per sms do you think could be achieved with the purchasing power that is "fair" enough ? What I am trying to find out is simple: What price can be obtained from a *carrier* on a direct wholesale contract, and what minimum volumes would clinch a contract. All I know is wholesalers g

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-19 Thread Martin
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:12 PM, wrote: > >  A search in Google for SMS providers yields dozens of third party > providers who likely have direct carrier contracts, and I dont think they > all started with large volumes. > > Is there anyone here who has a certain volume and wants to join forces >

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-19 Thread c . savinovich
A search in Google for SMS providers yields dozens of third party providers who likely have direct carrier contracts, and I dont think they all started with large volumes. Is there anyone here who has a certain volume and wants to join forces with us so that maybe we can achieve purchasing power

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-19 Thread Alex Balashov
5:25 PM > *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text > messaging contracts? > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:10 PM, C. Savinovich > mailto:c.savinov...@itntelecom.com>> wrote: > > Hi, we wil

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-19 Thread Geraint Lee
> carrier**. > > > > CS > > > > > > *From:* asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto: > asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Murphy > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:25 PM > *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-19 Thread C. Savinovich
-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Murphy Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:25 PM To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts? On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:10 PM, C. Savinovich wrote: Hi, we

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-19 Thread Michael
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:24:53 Steve Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:10 PM, C. Savinovich > > wrote: > > Hi, we will be sending about 10 thousand text messages per day through > > Clickatell. (From an Asterisk server)... We want to send the messages > > directly to the carriers. I am using

Re: [asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-19 Thread Steve Murphy
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:10 PM, C. Savinovich wrote: > Hi, we will be sending about 10 thousand text messages per day through > Clickatell. (From an Asterisk server)... We want to send the messages > directly to the carriers. I am using Kannel (at least I am trying to). At > that volume, there i

[asterisk-biz] Anyone knows about wholesale text messaging contracts?

2010-01-19 Thread C. Savinovich
Hi, we will be sending about 10 thousand text messages per day through Clickatell. (From an Asterisk server)... We want to send the messages directly to the carriers. I am using Kannel (at least I am trying to). At that volume, there is got to be wholesale contracts available from the *wireless ca