Re: [asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was Manners (was: Re: "Whats New at Digium the Ast erisk Company"))

2007-11-14 Thread Nick Seraphin
Aw.. don't make me get out my dictionary!! Damn it! -- Nick On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Bill Michaelson wrote: > You have presented a false dichotomy. > > Readers see through it. > > Nick Seraphin wrote: > > You disagree? > > > > You, Bill, think being called gay is more offensive than being

Re: [asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was Manners (was: Re: "Whats New at Digium the Ast erisk Company"))

2007-11-14 Thread bill dwyer
Ok since I feel paritally responsible for starting this mess when I was giving Alex a hard time. I have found a proper forum for this argument. www.indegayforum.org Just head on over there and get your fix of social justice. Honestly guys, I feel like I am playing Counterstrike on this board. The f

Re: [asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was Manners (was: Re: "Whats New at Digium the Ast erisk Company"))

2007-11-14 Thread Bill Michaelson
You have presented a false dichotomy. Readers see through it. Nick Seraphin wrote: You disagree? You, Bill, think being called gay is more offensive than being called a bigot? -- Nick On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Bill Michaelson wrote: It is essentially the same statement, but it does make thin

Re: [asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was Manners (was: Re: "Whats New at Digium the Ast erisk Company"))

2007-11-14 Thread Nick Seraphin
You disagree? You, Bill, think being called gay is more offensive than being called a bigot? -- Nick On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Bill Michaelson wrote: > It is essentially the same statement, but it does make things clearer to > me. Thank you. > > Nick Seraphin wrote: > > Sure. > > > > I think be

Re: [asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was Manners (was: Re: "Whats New at Digium the Ast erisk Company"))

2007-11-14 Thread Bill Michaelson
It is essentially the same statement, but it does make things clearer to me. Thank you. Nick Seraphin wrote: Sure. I think being called a bigot is much more offensive than being called "gay". Clear? -- Nick On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Bill Michaelson wrote: Care to clarify? Nick Seraphin wr

Re: [asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was Manners (was: Re: " Whats New at Digium the Ast erisk Company"))

2007-11-14 Thread Bill Michaelson
Timothy Penner wrote: -Original Message- From: Bill Michaelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Care to clarify? Nick Seraphin wrote: I'd rather be called gay than a bigot... the latter is far more offensive. Bill, I am taking a guess here, but the word gay can mean many

Re: [asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was Manners (was: Re: " Whats New at Digium the Ast erisk Company"))

2007-11-14 Thread Matthew Rubenstein
ject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was > > Manners (was: Re: "Whats New at Digium the Ast erisk Company")) > > > >Care to clarify? > > > > Nick Seraphin wrote: > >> I'd rather be called gay than a bigot... the latter is far more > >&g

Re: [asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was Manners (was: Re: "Whats New at Digium the Ast erisk Company"))

2007-11-14 Thread Nick Seraphin
Sure. Matthew thinks that calling something "gay" is offensive. I think being called a bigot is much more offensive than being called "gay". Neither requires mobilization of the thought police or the national guard. Clear? -- Nick On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Bill Michaelson wrote: > Care to clar

Re: [asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was Manners (was: Re: " Whats New at Digium the Ast erisk Company"))

2007-11-14 Thread Timothy Penner
> -Original Message- > From: Bill Michaelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:49 PM > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was > Manners (was: Re: "Whats New

Re: [asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was Manners (was: Re: "Whats New at Digium the Ast erisk Company"))

2007-11-14 Thread Bill Michaelson
Care to clarify? Nick Seraphin wrote: I'd rather be called gay than a bigot... the latter is far more offensive. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- ast

Re: [asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was Manners (was: Re: " Whats New at Digium the Ast erisk Company"))

2007-11-14 Thread Bill Michaelson
Quite true. I've committed gaffes this way. It's most instructive to see how one responds to criticism when such incidents occur. Timothy Penner wrote: i was merely trying to point out that there are many words and phrases that people use that others may take offense to... but people do not alw

Re: [asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was Manners (was: Re: "Whats New at Digium the Ast erisk Company"))

2007-11-14 Thread Nick Seraphin
Yep... throw around the "bigot" word like it's water. Everyone who disagrees with you is a bigot. No exceptions. No arguments. We're all bigots. Hmmm... blindly labeling a group of people with a derogatory term (bigot) because you don't like them or don't agree with them (or their lifestyle)

Re: [asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was Manners (was: Re: " Whats New at Digium the Ast erisk Company"))

2007-11-14 Thread Timothy Penner
> -Original Message- > From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I'll use my dictionary before I make assumptions or jump to > conclusions about somebody's intentions. Looks to me like it > could be describing a colorful product. It's also some > peoples last name and they don't claim ex

Re: [asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was Manners (was: Re: "Whats New at Digium the Ast erisk Company"))

2007-11-14 Thread Matthew Rubenstein
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 14:34 -0500, Paul wrote: > Timothy Penner wrote: > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: Nick Seraphin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >>5) It is absolutely insane how people overreact and take > >>everything so personally when someone doesn't use 100% > >>political co

Re: [asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was Manners (was: Re: "Whats New at Digium the Ast erisk Company"))

2007-11-14 Thread Paul
Timothy Penner wrote: >>-Original Message- >>From: Nick Seraphin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>5) It is absolutely insane how people overreact and take >>everything so personally when someone doesn't use 100% >>political correctness. God help us if Alex says "Merry >>Christmas" next