Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Independent ISPs in the US (was:

2009-01-05 Thread Dovid B
> Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: > >> On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 18:09 -0500, Kristian Kielhofner wrote: >>> On 1/4/09, Alex Balashov wrote: I think if this gets traction you will see a lot of providers doing ultra-low bait-and-switch rates. Most cannot afford to be in a price race

Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Independent ISPs in the US

2009-01-04 Thread Alex Balashov
voip-aster...@maximumcrm.com wrote: >> There's no easy money. You won't last long in pure resale. You have to >> add value. At the moment, there's a compelling value proposition to >> offer relative to other VoIP O/T & ITSP call shops in better >> engineering, better peering, better tools, and b

Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Independent ISPs in the US

2009-01-04 Thread voip-asterisk
> There's no easy money. You won't last long in pure resale. You have to > add value. At the moment, there's a compelling value proposition to > offer relative to other VoIP O/T & ITSP call shops in better > engineering, better peering, better tools, and better rates. > > But how long can you be

Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Independent ISPs in the US

2009-01-04 Thread Alex Balashov
The executive-sized soundbite version of my post: There's no easy money. You won't last long in pure resale. You have to add value. At the moment, there's a compelling value proposition to offer relative to other VoIP O/T & ITSP call shops in better engineering, better peering, better tools,

Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Independent ISPs in the US

2009-01-04 Thread Alex Balashov
Alex Balashov wrote: > There are survivors, of course; folks that hang on providing > higher-margin business services (whatever the justification for $150/mo > "business DSL" that is the exact same product as residential, some > businesses are willing to buy into it), value-added service Ah,

Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Independent ISPs in the US (was: Experimental/new VoIP rate search engine.)

2009-01-04 Thread Alex Balashov
Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: > On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 18:09 -0500, Kristian Kielhofner wrote: >> On 1/4/09, Alex Balashov wrote: >>> I think if this gets traction you will see a lot of providers doing >>> ultra-low bait-and-switch rates. Most cannot afford to be in a price >>> race to the bot