On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 18:32 -0700, C. Savinovich wrote:
> Let's put it in even simpler terms. True story by the way: Spain cellular
> sells for 19cents per minute the cheapest anyone can find (this is only an
> example)... So I calculate I can resell for 23cents per minute. But then
> everybody
On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 22:00 +, Linus Surguy wrote:
> > We've been using carriers that bill 1/1, and the quality hasn't been too
> > good, lots of 503's etc. We just started testing with someone else that
> > offers much better ASR's (they failover internally between qwest, global
> > crossi
erisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] ITSP Billing Increments?
> We've been using carriers that bill 1/1, and the quality hasn't been too
> good, lots of 503's etc. We just started testing with someone else that
> offers much better ASR's (they failove
> We've been using carriers that bill 1/1, and the quality hasn't been too
> good, lots of 503's etc. We just started testing with someone else that
> offers much better ASR's (they failover internally between qwest, global
> crossing etc), but they bill 30/6. According to THEM, only companies t
erisk Discussion
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] ITSP Billing Increments?
>Hi Doug,
>
>Quoting Douglas Garstang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> So, I have a general question.
>>
>> What billing increments do ITSP&#
>Hi Doug,
>
>Quoting Douglas Garstang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> So, I have a general question.
>>
>> What billing increments do ITSP's who terminate SIP->PSTN normally bill in?
>>
>> We've been using carriers that bill 1/1, and the quality hasn't been
>> too good, lots of 503's etc. We just start
>On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 22:56 -0700, Douglas Garstang wrote:
>> So, I have a general question.
>>
>> What billing increments do ITSP's who terminate SIP->PSTN normally
>> bill in?
>>
>> We've been using carriers that bill 1/1, and the quality hasn't been
>> too good, lots of 503's etc. We just sta
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To: asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] ITSP Billing Increments?
Hi Doug,
Quoting Douglas Garstang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> So, I have a
Hi Doug,
Quoting Douglas Garstang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> So, I have a general question.
>
> What billing increments do ITSP's who terminate SIP->PSTN normally bill in?
>
> We've been using carriers that bill 1/1, and the quality hasn't been
> too good, lots of 503's etc. We just started testing
hi,
first of all, as far as i know, there are a lot of short calls. think
of all the calls that end in a voicemail box where the caller doesn't
leave a message. There is a lot of slack in 30 second minimums.
and, historically, 6/6 was used because 6 seconds is 10% of a minute -
it just makes the
On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 22:56 -0700, Douglas Garstang wrote:
> So, I have a general question.
>
> What billing increments do ITSP's who terminate SIP->PSTN normally
> bill in?
>
> We've been using carriers that bill 1/1, and the quality hasn't been
> too good, lots of 503's etc. We just started te
No, Unlimitel just don't have any POP in Orillia.
Henry
< Robert Augustyn>
> Henry,
> Are you experiencing any problems with Unlimitel?
> Thanks
> robert
>
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>> Henry L.Coleman
>> Sent: Friday, July 27
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Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] ITSP solution needed
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:18:43 -0500
Bob,
I need the same thing. I've been thinking of building it myself (hiring
plenty of help). Please send any pertinent info you have at this po
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http://www.sotelsystems.com
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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:06 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] ITSP solution needed
We h
Hello Curt,
Currently we have a robust billing solution and are using it to provide
calling minutes to call centers. We can modify this similar solution to
satisfy your needs, and it wont cost you a bomb for SURE!
Contact me off the list so that we can discuss further.
Thanks & Regards,
Mitu
ot;Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] ITSP solution needed
We have a solution being done, price is 24,999$ plus 4,999 $ setup.
CDN funds as the $ signs says.
digium board users get a 10% discount .
C
hello, we can offer solution exactly for you, based on our own hosted
pbx and billing. if you interesting, please email of directly. andy
On 10/17/06, Curt Shaffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
All,
I am looking for a basic web based ITSP solution that can do the following:
Enter DIDs
Rout
We have a solution being done, price is 24,999$ plus 4,999 $ setup.
CDN funds as the $ signs says.
digium board users get a 10% discount .
Curt Shaffer wrote:
All,
I am looking for a basic web based ITSP solution that can do the
following:
Enter DIDs
Route DIDs to customers
ZAP, IAX a
: [asterisk-biz] ITSP in Estonia?
Need Estonian phonenumbers and SIP-termination.
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Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:55:25 -0700
From: "Ioan Biris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] ITSP in Estonia?
To: "'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asteris
Need Estonian phonenumbers and SIP-termination.
- Original Message -
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:55:25 -0700
From: "Ioan Biris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] ITSP in Estonia?
To: "'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'&
Hello,
www.voipproviderslist.com
www.calltermination.com (there is reference to list of ITSP's)
Andy.
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 23:50:17 +0200
Lennart Utgård <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Does anyone know of a ITSP in Estonia?
> We need to buy services for one of our customers with office in
Hi ,
What do you need exactly from the ITSP ?
Regards,
Ioan
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Sent: August 9, 2006 2:50 PM
To: asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-biz] ITSP in Estonia?
Hi!
Do
Moshe,
Hello, I sent you two replies in private email, one the day after you
first sent a request and again yesterday, please let me know if you are
not receiving them.
Thanks,
Chris
Moshe Maeir wrote:
Chris Hi,
I asked you in the past, but did not get an answer ---
how we can try it o
Zafer,
We have an ITSP product all ready to go. For more details, please see:
http://integrics.com/products/itsp/
An online demo is at:
http://itsp.demo.integrics.com/?username=guest;password=guest
and a feature list is at:
http://integrics.com/products/itsp/latest/fe
Chris Hi,
I asked you in the past, but did not get an answer ---
how we can try it out and what the pricing will be.
Thanks
Moshe
Moshe Maeir
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
+1-646-432-4949
Unlimited Phone Calls!
www.msmnetphone.com
Chris A. Icide wrote:
You can also look at our application at htt
You can also look at our application at http://www.netgeeks.net/. It's
an ITSP solution with an integrated billing package. It's currently in
successful beta testing use at several VoIP providers with live
customers using the system.
-Chris
Zafer Khodr wrote:
We are currentl
Zafer,
Please visit our website at www.SkyyConsulting.com – On the
front page is a link for ITSP’s. We are currently architecting a
solution that may be of interest to you. Some preliminary
documentation has been made public regarding ITSP’s & Asterisk.
Thanks,
Dinesh
Mike Benoit wrote:
Obviously VOIP companies don't control the routes between them and their
customers, but when I say "quality and reliability" I mean no random
busy signals, ring back that actually works, CID that actually works,
incoming calls don't get "dead air", new orders they claim to be
com
Again, this thread isn't about the internet being the issue. The VOIP
companies are the issue, NOT the internet in most cases that I have run
across.
I don't even want "enterprise class" service from my VOIP company, I
just want things to work consistently as advertised, and for them to
actually
Obviously VOIP companies don't control the routes between them and their
customers, but when I say "quality and reliability" I mean no random
busy signals, ring back that actually works, CID that actually works,
incoming calls don't get "dead air", new orders they claim to be
completed in 14days ar
On Mar 30, 2005, at 10:57 AM, Brian West wrote:
OK, so I'm not alone here. Between your response, Mike Benoit's, and
several others, it seems like a few of us are looking for
enterprise-class service, such as what we'd experience if we
carefully selected an HSP for a server farm. Pay a premium a
OK, so I'm not alone here. Between your response, Mike Benoit's, and
several others, it seems like a few of us are looking for
enterprise-class service, such as what we'd experience if we carefully
selected an HSP for a server farm. Pay a premium and get taken care
of. It's like something I exp
On Mar 30, 2005, at 9:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Mike Benoit wrote:
I'd be more then happy to pay 3-5cents/min to a company that has
proven
reliable in both there quality of service and customer support. Just
because a company charges 3cents/min doesn't mean they are any
On Mar 30, 2005, at 9:21 AM, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
Robert Goodyear wrote:
On Mar 30, 2005, at 7:59 AM, Brian West wrote:
Price, Reliability, Quality
Pick 2.
NEXT!!!
/b
Yeah, we've already been over that. Waiting for someone to step up to
the plate and give me items 2 and 3 at the expense
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Mike Benoit wrote:
> I'd be more then happy to pay 3-5cents/min to a company that has proven
> reliable in both there quality of service and customer support. Just
> because a company charges 3cents/min doesn't mean they are any better
> then the 1cent/min company either.
If y
Robert Goodyear wrote:
On Mar 30, 2005, at 7:59 AM, Brian West wrote:
Price, Reliability, Quality
Pick 2.
NEXT!!!
/b
Yeah, we've already been over that. Waiting for someone to step up to
the plate and give me items 2 and 3 at the expense of item 1.
Hey wait a minute... isn't VoicePulse one o
The whole point of this thread is that we WANT to pick two, but in my
experience the two we want don't exist! What currently exists is only
ONE. Price. What I want (and assume other people posting to the thread)
want is:
Reliability and Quality
I'd be more then happy to pay 3-5cents/min to a comp
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 08:45 -0800, Robert Goodyear wrote:
> Hey wait a minute... isn't VoicePulse one of the most expensive?
> Doesn't that mean I can have Reliability and Quality now according to
> the formula above?
Maybe they are just a bad company
Best regards,
Herman Webley
_
On Mar 30, 2005, at 7:59 AM, Brian West wrote:
Price, Reliability, Quality
Pick 2.
NEXT!!!
/b
Yeah, we've already been over that. Waiting for someone to step up to
the plate and give me items 2 and 3 at the expense of item 1.
Hey wait a minute... isn't VoicePulse one of the most expensive?
D
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Glenn wrote:
Mike said:
I say that we all boycott VP.
Boycott? How about just take our business elsewhere and give negative
recommendation on VP?
Sorry that is what I ment
Mike
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Price, Reliability, Quality
Pick 2.
NEXT!!!
/b
On Mar 30, 2005, at 9:03 AM, Robert Goodyear wrote:
On Mar 30, 2005, at 6:45 AM, Asterisk guy wrote:
try mutualphone.com , excellent rates , US 1.2c
This is not a fishing expedition. The whole discussion revolves around
everything BUT the price
Robert Goodyear said:
>
> On Mar 30, 2005, at 6:45 AM, Asterisk guy wrote:
>
>> try mutualphone.com , excellent rates , US 1.2c
>
> This is not a fishing expedition. The whole discussion revolves around
> everything BUT the price per minute. If you had said "Try XYZ, excellent
> technical sales s
Mike said:
> I say that we all boycott VP.
Boycott? How about just take our business elsewhere and give negative
recommendation on VP?
cheers,
glenn
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I say that we all boycott VP.
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Robert Goodyear wrote:
On Mar 30, 2005, at 5:56 AM, Glenn wrote:
Robert Goodyear said:
I need to vent a little bit here,
Amen! I just posted the message from VoicePulse to the list.
I actually noticed the price increase on the VP Connect web site o
On Mar 30, 2005, at 6:45 AM, Asterisk guy wrote:
try mutualphone.com , excellent rates , US 1.2c
This is not a fishing expedition. The whole discussion revolves around
everything BUT the price per minute. If you had said "Try XYZ,
excellent technical sales service, reliable origination" I would
On Mar 30, 2005, at 6:12 AM, Glenn wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Actually, *that* part is not wrong. You are buying wholesale service -
you shouldn't really expect handholding similar to one that Vonage
(say)
provides (or should provide anyway) to a grandma with a SIP adapter.
(full-on rant follo
On Mar 30, 2005, at 5:56 AM, Glenn wrote:
Robert Goodyear said:
I need to vent a little bit here,
Amen! I just posted the message from VoicePulse to the list.
I actually noticed the price increase on the VP Connect web site on
Monday. My email to VP support about the increase went unanswered.
I'll
On Mar 30, 2005, at 4:29 AM, steve szmidt wrote:
On Wednesday 30 March 2005 01:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's the thing: Customer Relationship Management is not difficult.
It
requires very little overhead to build a relationship with a
customer in
such a way that those customers become that
try mutualphone.com , excellent rates , US 1.2c
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:12:05 -0600 (CST), Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> > Actually, *that* part is not wrong. You are buying wholesale service -
> > you shouldn't really expect handholding similar to one that Vonage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Actually, *that* part is not wrong. You are buying wholesale service -
> you shouldn't really expect handholding similar to one that Vonage (say)
> provides (or should provide anyway) to a grandma with a SIP adapter.
(full-on rant follows)
Vonage **handholding**? You've G
Robert Goodyear said:
> I need to vent a little bit here,
Amen! I just posted the message from VoicePulse to the list.
I actually noticed the price increase on the VP Connect web site on
Monday. My email to VP support about the increase went unanswered.
I'll also note for the record that VP has
On Wednesday 30 March 2005 01:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Here's the thing: Customer Relationship Management is not difficult. It
> > requires very little overhead to build a relationship with a customer in
> > such a way that those customers become that company's evangelists and
> > stick a
you know what, forget reliability, forget support, all that good stuff.
If voicepulse thinks they can raise rates by more than 35% (from $8 to
$11) ON 2 DAYS NOTICE without grandfathering in your old clients, and
think this is acceptable, then they shouldn't be in the ITSP business,
and they shoul
On Mar 29, 2005, at 10:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
b) There's very low barrier to entry, thus lots of lemonade stand ITSPs
with a server at a ghetto-colo-of-the-month facility reselling a
reseller
of a reseller.
I think you're right, there: perhaps while the intent to offer a solid
product i
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Robert Goodyear wrote:
> How is it that companies can push a wholesale/reseller product and not
> offer ANY sort of SLA or financial recourse? I'm not talking five nines
> here, but how about something like "if your DID is down for more than
> five days, we'll credit you for t
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