Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Features requests on bugs.digium.com

2005-01-01 Thread steve
> > Well, many projects use their -dev lists to actually propose, comment > > on and hash out new features, so that they don't get put into the > > "tracking" system until there's a base of support and usually some > > code behind it. Asterisk is the only project I've ever participated in > >

RE: [Asterisk-Dev] Features requests on bugs.digium.com

2004-12-31 Thread Brian West
> I think a lot of people will agree that -dev is underutilized. My own > theory is that people stay away because of too many accidental posts > here (i.e. -users problems). I'm not sure what the solution to that is, > but that's my opinion. I can agree with this we need to use -dev more ;) HAP

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Features requests on bugs.digium.com

2004-12-31 Thread Nick Bachmann
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Josh Roberson wrote: Got any suggestions? This has probably been the most useful comment of the thread, because it actually has something to discuss rather than vague generalities. Well, many projects use their -dev lists to actually propose, comment on and hash out new

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Features requests on bugs.digium.com

2004-12-31 Thread Josh Roberson
Michael Giagnocavo wrote: Alright, don't flame me... but, what if something was tried ala MSDN Product Feedback Center? Anyone can report a bug or feature (after being forced to search first). I like this approach so far.. Then, anyone can vote for it (1-5), so the most "important" issues come u

RE: [Asterisk-Dev] Features requests on bugs.digium.com

2004-12-31 Thread Brian West
> I know this makes a lot of sense to you Brian, but it's not as 'open' of a > process as you might think. Personally, I'm glad you can invest a lot of > time 'in the clubhouse'. I'm sure you've formed a lot of very meaningful > personal and professional relationships that will enrich your life wit

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Features requests on bugs.digium.com

2004-12-31 Thread Josh Roberson
Darren Nickerson wrote: I think my point is that _nobody_ will ever manage feature requests in any concerted way, and that this is OK. There needs to be a way for someone to 'freshen' an issue if they hang working code on it though, ... because it can become commit-worthy at that point. In the

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Features requests on bugs.digium.com

2004-12-31 Thread Darren Nickerson
"Brian West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok guys we work with mark daily and we know what will fly or not fly. You are indeed all powerful and all knowing, and you have a keen sense of style too, I might add ;-) We talk on conf calls NIGHTLY and we communicate VERY fast on bugs and we don't just

RE: [Asterisk-Dev] Features requests on bugs.digium.com

2004-12-31 Thread Michael Giagnocavo
> I can see your point here, and I agree, most people don't want to do the > administrative grunt work. I think what needs to happen, since I've seen > a lot of viewpoints that seem to match yours, is we need more people who's > specific job is to handle the feature requests then. Would you li

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Features requests on bugs.digium.com

2004-12-31 Thread Darren Nickerson
"Josh Roberson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can see your point here, and I agree, most people don't want to do the administrative grunt work. I think what needs to happen, since I've seen a lot of viewpoints that seem to match yours, is we need more people who's specific job is to handle the f

RE: [Asterisk-Dev] Features requests on bugs.digium.com

2004-12-31 Thread Brian West
hear the story of where "moose penis" came from :P bkw > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-dev- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Nickerson > Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 4:56 PM > To: Asterisk Developers Mailing List > Su

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Features requests on bugs.digium.com

2004-12-31 Thread Darren Nickerson
"Josh Roberson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This discussion was actually already here, we just jumped into it. If my reactions to your viewpoints don't prove that I'm open-minded about this, I don't know what will. Aw, I knew you were open minded ;-) You're one of the most level-headed of the co

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Features requests on bugs.digium.com

2004-12-31 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Josh Roberson wrote: I completely agree with this. I wouldn't see a repository for feature requests/enhancements as a graveyard - meerly another locaiton for advancement, and our current system as a place where you bring your bugs, and resolutions to bugs. Perhaps we SHOULD look into a better

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Features requests on bugs.digium.com

2004-12-31 Thread Darren Nickerson
"Josh Roberson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tilghman Lesher wrote: A bit of history on this: a few months ago, Mark felt there were too many bugs open on the bugtracker and threatened to shut down new reports if the total number were not quickly reduced. I don't remember the exact number, but 200

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Features requests on bugs.digium.com

2004-12-29 Thread Steve Kann
On Dec 29, 2004, at 9:50 PM, Brian West wrote: Ok I think all feature requests need to be gone from bugs.digium.com... if it has a patch it should be ok. But feature requests I don't think should be on the "bug" tracker. It is a bug tracker right? So we can focus... what do you think... all ra

[Asterisk-Dev] Features requests on bugs.digium.com

2004-12-29 Thread Brian West
Ok I think all feature requests need to be gone from bugs.digium.com... if it has a patch it should be ok. But feature requests I don't think should be on the "bug" tracker. It is a bug tracker right? So we can focus... what do you think... all raise your hands if the bug tracker should only be