Darren Nickerson wrote:
"Brian West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Aidan isn't a troll he does raise a very valid point.

Which was, I presume, that companies that once collaborated on Asterisk development such as Sangoma don't find themselves on friendly terms with Digium now that they're competing for * implementors $$s?

If Aidan's point was that Digium isn't playing nice nice with Sangoma, I think that's politics that most of us don't know enough to comment on, and that should not really concern anyone but the companies involved. So maybe he _is_ a troll.

If his point was that the dual licensing model somehow disadvantages companies such as Sangoma, who don't find themselves on a level playing field, and that this causes pain and suffering to * users because of lack of competition in hardware supporting asterisk, well them maybe he's not a troll.

Please don't get all protectionist on me and say Digium has earned the right to be the only hardware vendor. I'll respect your right to "Buy Digium" as long as you respect my right to buy the cheapest or perhaps the most critically acclaimed card asterisk-supporting flavor of the month ;-) I know I won't hurt Mark's feelings - he recognizes that competition is a healthy part of the capitalist market Digium is in the process of disrupting. The following is excerpted from:

    http://news.com.com/Is+the+telephone+industry+ready+for+open+source/2008-1082_3-5737703.html

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"Capitalism, to me, is a system of competition in which the end product becomes better and (less expensive) because of competitive forces pushing on it. Open source forces you to have to be more competitive. As you add competitive advantage, that advantage is adopted more rapidly; you can't sit back on your development. It forces you to constantly be innovative because people can use your new thing immediately."
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I think we've already seen the benefits of this competition - we've seen Digium innovate their hardware quite rapidly, adding the often-requested echo cancellation to their already popular T1/E1/J1 boards for instance.

But I guess I'm wondering ... does the present licensing model discourage other vendors from contributing to *? I'm not sure Sangoma developers could sign the disclaimers even if they wanted to ... but then again I don't know if there's anyone there with anything to offer. I would think that that fact that they're selling hardware that supports * means that there's _some_ sharp cookies there, but perhaps they're just kernel module/driver hackers out to make a quick buck off of Digiums's back without contributing to the core?

-Darren
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>I'll put in my two cents worth!
Who actually manufactures the chips?  IF  they are the same company or equivalent devices, then the firmware/software drivers will be similar and Sangoma products will naturally be workable with *.
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