[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk-Users List Etiquette

Friends, Romans, Countrymen, lend me your ears! Or, in this case, your eyes. It has become a problem I've noticed over and over again, that we tend to think the mailing list is some sort of forum, used to post whatever your hearts desire. This list, not unlike any other mailing list, has a purpo

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Sorry for the formatting everyone.. my mailer blows chunks... it looked ok before I sent it ;) On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 22:03, twisted wrote: > Friends, Romans, Countrymen, lend me your ears! > > Or, in this case, your eyes. > > It has become a problem I've noticed over and over again, that we tend

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You forgot to add in how awful it is when people post using HTML and then override font sizes or assume blue is an appropriate font color for their message. While I know some people don't like it when I turn my attention to them, if it takes me even one more button press to be able to read your m

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On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 23:03, twisted wrote: [snip] > And now, for the Asterisk-Users dial plan: [snip] Before hanging up, there should be an extension reminding everyone that top posting is super duper wrong and oh so annoying. I used to top post, but now I understand why it's frowned upon. It s

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> Before hanging up, there should be an extension reminding everyone that > top posting is super duper wrong and oh so annoying. Must I use the Wiki or Google to find out what "top posting" is? :-) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

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Its a matter of personal preference Holger, most people dont care, but the ones who do whine about it a lot and can read it fine just as well. This is a top post. its up top of the msg its posted about. It gives some the impression youre too lazy to trim the stuff below it. While trimming is a g

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Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You forgot to add in how awful it is when people post using HTML and > then override font sizes or assume blue is an appropriate font color for > their message. > > While I know some people don't like it when I turn my attention to them, > if it take

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Kevin Walsh wrote: Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot to add in how awful it is when people post using HTML and then override font sizes or assume blue is an appropriate font color for their message. While I know some people don't like it when I turn my attention to them, if

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EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Lee Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2004 20:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk-Users List Etiquette Kevin Walsh wrote: > Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>You forgot to add in how awful

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On Tuesday 15 June 2004 06:34, Chris Lee wrote: > Top posting is what a lot of people are very comfortable with. > It also has the advantage in lists that when you step through a thread > the answer to the last item is ready for you to read. I disagree completely, and I am a threaded reader. The

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On Monday 14 June 2004 23:03, twisted wrote: > Friends, Romans, Countrymen, lend me your ears! This reminds me of the Robin Hood, Men in Tights scene where Robin of Loxley says the same and all the villagers throw ears at him. "That's disgusting!" > And now, for the Asterisk-Users dial plan: Y

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On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 12:29, Simon Brown wrote: > And didn't the original poster of this thread state rather forcefully that > this list is for * issues, not to be hijacked - which is exactly what is > happening based on comments/demands made by the original poster that were not > on the topic of *

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LIFO Last In First Out - Original Message - From: "tmpm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 4:30 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk-Users List Etiquette > Its a matter of personal preference Holger, most people

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I hate asci signatures that are hard to read, stop eating up my bits :p - Original Message - From: "Kevin Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 6:07 AM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk-Users List Etiquette >

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Isn't it odd as hell the same people that complain about html are also some of the same people that use "special" mail readers to emulate news readers? Both seem to want to influence the 8,000 list members their tools are the only one's in existence and we better all format our list postings to mak

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On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 07:35:31AM -0600, Rich Adamson said: > Isn't it odd as hell the same people that complain about html are also > some of the same people that use "special" mail readers to emulate news > readers? Both seem to want to influence the 8,000 list members their > tools are the only

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On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 08:35, Rich Adamson wrote: > Isn't it odd as hell the same people that complain about html are also > some of the same people that use "special" mail readers to emulate news > readers? Both seem to want to influence the 8,000 list members their > tools are the only one's in ex

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Simon Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > And didn't the original poster of this thread state rather forcefully that > this list is for * issues, not to be hijacked - which is exactly what is > happening based on comments/demands made by the original poster that were > not on the topic of * > You pr

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M3 Freak wrote: > Before hanging up, there should be an extension reminding > everyone that top posting is super duper wrong and oh so annoying. > > I used to top post, but now I understand why it's frowned > upon. It should be avoided at all costs. Unfortunately, some of us just can't help it

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Aaron J. Angel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > M3 Freak wrote: > > Before hanging up, there should be an extension reminding > > everyone that top posting is super duper wrong and oh so annoying. > > > > I used to top post, but now I understand why it's frowned > > upon. It should be avoided at all co

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> > Isn't it odd as hell the same people that complain about html are also > > some of the same people that use "special" mail readers to emulate news > > readers? Both seem to want to influence the 8,000 list members their > > tools are the only one's in existence and we better all format our > >

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On Tuesday 15 June 2004 20:45, Aaron J. Angel wrote: > > And for those of you who don't like HTML email with different fonts or > colors, etc., there's this thing called CSS . And for the rest of us, there's /dev/null which is where html email belongs. >If you expect everyone else to use a client

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Holger Schurig wrote: Before hanging up, there should be an extension reminding everyone that top posting is super duper wrong and oh so annoying. Must I use the Wiki or Google to find out what "top posting" is? :-) You might try reading http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html -- it explai

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Kevin Walsh scribbled on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 2:32 PM: > If you use Microsoft Outlook then you might find this utility > interesting: > > http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/ Just a note for those using Word as their editor (an option you can c

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r perplexion. So, maybe we can just agree to disagree. (PS: You're welcome for not having to scroll to the bottom to start reading this message :) -----Original Message- From: Nicholas Bachmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 8:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [A

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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Nicholas Bachmann wrote: > You might try reading http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html -- it > explains why people don't like top posting. Or read this quote: A: Because we read from top to bottom, left to right. Q: Why should i start my reply below the quoted text? - -- htt

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Jay Milk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I've been using the usenet/internet since the early 90s, and I've had my > share of newsreaders, mailclients, etc. I've been active on the web > with my own sites since 94/95. > > Yet... Gasp!... I PREFER TOP-POSTING (and I will continue to do so). > Perhap

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Why is this conversation still taking place? It's a matter of personal preference and I think it should be dropped.. If you don't like someone's post, then don't read it. Problem solved. I won't be replying to this topic again.. lets just drop it. -Jon -Original Message- Jay Milk [EMA

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> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Lee > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 6:34 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk-Users List Etiquette > > Kevin Walsh wrote: > > Steve

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On Behalf Of > Hermann Wecke > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 2:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk-Users List Etiquette > > On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Nicholas Bachmann wrote: > > You might try reading http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html -- it &g

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On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 09:21 -0400, Troy Settle wrote: <..snip..> > > However, my preference is for top posting. The reason, is that in order to > read my message here, you had to scroll through ~70 lines of previous > discussion. Stuff that you've /already/ read since you've been following > this

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On Thursday 17 June 2004 09:21, Troy Settle wrote: > However, my preference is for top posting. The reason, is that in order to > read my message here, you had to scroll through ~70 lines of previous > discussion. Stuff that you've /already/ read since you've been following > this thread. That's

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> -Original Message- > From: Gonzalo Servat > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 9:34 AM > > Sorry to butt into this thread, but I think this is where you went > wrong. There was absolutely no need to quote 70+ lines of text to say > what you had to say. You're supposed to quote the relevant

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What is this? Day Three? What is the standing record on this list for flame wars? You guys need to do a sanity check. These posts are nothing more than SPAM and Ive just added to it. I feel so dirty now. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/17/2004 9:08:09 AM >>> > -Original Message- > From: G

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ssage- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Kohlsmith Sent: 17 June 2004 14:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk-Users List Etiquette On Thursday 17 June 2004 09:21, Troy Settle wrote: > However, my preference is for top posting. The re

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On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 09:23, Troy Settle wrote: > A: Because we read the question in the previous message. > > > Q: Why should I post my reply above the quoted text? You are assuming that everyone subscribed to the list is reading you particular thread. If they're not, but are mostly just skimmi

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On Thursday 17 June 2004 10:21, Simon wrote: > If i ask a question it's just nice to get a good clear and concise answer. > Makes no odds to me where the answer is in the reply. Precisely -- this is what this mini flame thread is all about. Many of us believe that top posting, not trimming, etc.

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Andrew, you are right on with your final point about absurdity. Hopefully this vile top-posting will illustrate exactly why. Sorry, I couldn't resist. B. Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Thursday 17 June 2004 09:21, Troy Settle wrote: However, my preference is for top posting. The reason, is that in ord