Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-02-02 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 11:47, Clif Jones wrote: > It was actually a good question. When I learned Unix internals, the > shared libs and executables > where "busy" when loaded because of swap-in/swap-out requirements. Swap > space was > used to store the core memory for the apps, and the app itse

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-02-02 Thread Clif Jones
It was actually a good question. When I learned Unix internals, the shared libs and executables where "busy" when loaded because of swap-in/swap-out requirements. Swap space was used to store the core memory for the apps, and the app itself was memory mapped when needed. That is why you could

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-02-01 Thread William Waites
On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 04:51:30PM -0600, Steven Critchfield wrote: > > This isn't intended as a flame bait. The original message should have > been more clear that I thought you where experiencing crap in windows. Heh. I haven't used windows since 1995 :) In fact, with HP-UX you cannot delete o

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-02-01 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 16:38, William Waites wrote: > On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 04:21:23PM -0600, Steven Critchfield wrote: > > > > Dude maybe you need to learn more Unix programing and leave those toy > > OSes alone. Once a module is loaded, there should be no need to read the > > version on the fil

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-02-01 Thread William Waites
On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 04:21:23PM -0600, Steven Critchfield wrote: > > Dude maybe you need to learn more Unix programing and leave those toy > OSes alone. Once a module is loaded, there should be no need to read the > version on the file system again. Your problem would be loading new > modules i

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-02-01 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 20:02, William Waites wrote: > On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 07:43:46PM -0600, Brian West wrote: > > Nope I do make install all the time with asterisk running without ONE > > problem. > > As I said, this behaviour is specific to some implementations > of dynamic loadable modules. I

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-01-31 Thread William Waites
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 07:43:46PM -0600, Brian West wrote: > Nope I do make install all the time with asterisk running without ONE > problem. As I said, this behaviour is specific to some implementations of dynamic loadable modules. It depends what OS (and in some cases what version of the OS) yo

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-01-31 Thread Brian West
Nope I do make install all the time with asterisk running without ONE problem. bkw On Sat, 31 Jan 2004, William Waites wrote: > While your problem is most likely bad RAM as other > replies have suggested, there is another thing to > keep in mind. > > Some implementations of dynamic module loadin

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-01-31 Thread William Waites
While your problem is most likely bad RAM as other replies have suggested, there is another thing to keep in mind. Some implementations of dynamic module loading have problems if a loaded module is overwritten on the disk. What this means is that it is safest to stop Asterisk just before running

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-01-31 Thread Eric Stanley
On Friday 30 January 2004 17:57, Greg Boehnlein wrote: > Speaking of Binary packages, has anyone had the chance to test the > Asterisk 0.7.1 RPMS that I built last weekend? I'm using them on an up-to-date Fedora Core 1. So far so good. I don't have my Digium hardware yet, so I'm still just usin

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-01-30 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On 30 Jan 2004, Joe Phillips wrote: > On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 14:26, David Gomillion wrote: > > Rob Fugina wrote: > > > > > Seg faulting compiles usually indicate a memory problem on the > > > machine. Not lack of size, but bad memory, badly seated memory, > > > etc... There's no reason asterisk ru

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-01-30 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
> Yes, Nortel Meridian's can get 5 9's easily. They are very expensive, > but we have one running at a government site in Indiana that has been up > for 15 years without interruption. When you upgrade the 1 control unit, > the other 1 is servicing all the requests. There is a brief period of > t

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-01-30 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
> Anyway, thanks for bringing my bad math to my attention. So, here's the > question: has anyone worked on a phone system that DID have 5 9's? I'm > not talking about core services that AT&T Long Lines owns, I mean > customer-premises equipment. Is that an unrealistic goal? I've never seen a ph

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-01-30 Thread Loucks, Jason
Yes, Nortel Meridian's can get 5 9's easily.  They are very expensive, but we have one running at a government site in Indiana that has been up for 15 years without interruption.  When you upgrade the 1 control unit, the other 1 is servicing all the requests.  There is a brief period of time whe

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-01-30 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
> This is a reason I argue for binary packages in production > environments. You can build the packages (eg. debs or RPMs) on a > development machine at your leisure and install the binary in minutes on > the production machine. If your packages use proper dependencies you > can also be much more

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-01-30 Thread David Gomillion
Steven Critchfield wrote: > On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 13:26, David Gomillion wrote: >> Rob Fugina wrote: >> [snip] Is there a way to safely compile while * is running, so that I can minimize down time of the server? >>> >>> Seg faulting compiles usually indicate a memory problem on the >>> ma

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-01-30 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 13:26, David Gomillion wrote: > Rob Fugina wrote: > [snip] > >> Is there a way to safely compile while * is running, so that I can > >> minimize down time of the server? > > > > Seg faulting compiles usually indicate a memory problem on the > > machine. Not lack of size, but b

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-01-30 Thread Joe Phillips
On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 14:26, David Gomillion wrote: > Rob Fugina wrote: > > > Seg faulting compiles usually indicate a memory problem on the > > machine. Not lack of size, but bad memory, badly seated memory, > > etc... There's no reason asterisk running, or the drivers being > > loaded, should >

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-01-30 Thread David Gomillion
Rob Fugina wrote: [snip] >> Is there a way to safely compile while * is running, so that I can >> minimize down time of the server? > > Seg faulting compiles usually indicate a memory problem on the > machine. Not lack of size, but bad memory, badly seated memory, > etc... There's no reason asteri

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-01-30 Thread Rob Fugina
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 12:21:49PM -0500, Stephen R. Besch wrote: > I just fetched today's cvs (1/30/04 11:10:31). Compiles/installs on my > test machine (ASUS A7V, 900 MHZ). However, If I try to compile on my > production machine (Elite K7S5A, 2.4GHz, 512MB) while * is running the > zaptel and

[Asterisk-Users] Compiling while * is running

2004-01-30 Thread Stephen R. Besch
I just fetched today's cvs (1/30/04 11:10:31). Compiles/installs on my test machine (ASUS A7V, 900 MHZ). However, If I try to compile on my production machine (Elite K7S5A, 2.4GHz, 512MB) while * is running the zaptel and asterisk compiles seg fault. I am assuming that they will compile correc