> Now can this waste of a thread die, or does someone have to invoke
> Godwins law directly.
1. It's not a waste of a thread. This is good stuff to discuss but I agree
that it's been beaten to death.
2. You can't invoke Goodwin's law to purposely kill a thread. I forget the
corollary's name b
>How many examples of VOIP music systems that don't use
>a hardware timmer card do you need?
I think my point then was that Asterisk isn't a "VoIP music system".
It is a PBX which initially supported TDM based telephony. It now does
have some support for VoIP and there are certainly other ways
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 11:34, Chris Albertson wrote:
> --- Richard Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Asterisk was being used for TDM based PSTN switching before if even
> > supported SIP. There is therefore nothing strange about it using
> > hardware based timing. I don't see the relevan
--- Richard Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Asterisk was being used for TDM based PSTN switching before if even
> supported SIP. There is therefore nothing strange about it using
> hardware based timing. I don't see the relevance of VoIP transmission
> to
> the discussion. Sure you can sq
rnc Info Lists wrote:
> Its a free world and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Here's mine
> on this topic. The cards aren't so expensive (99.95 USD). If they have
> their own hardware then they don't have to depend on the target system
> having a particular configuration. Example: right
Asterisk was being used for TDM based PSTN switching before if even
supported SIP. There is therefore nothing strange about it using
hardware based timing. I don't see the relevance of VoIP transmission to
the discussion. Sure you can squirt it down the tube as you see fit -
but MOH is a different
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 13:57, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> > Are there USB PCI cards that use the chip that's compatible with
> > ztdummy?
>
> So now you're using a $50 USB PCI card, or a $100 FXO/FXS card... you're
> adding stuff to the system either way. :-)
>
> Personally I really like the RTC
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 13:57, Chris Albertson wrote:
> Lets see if I understand this logic. I'll restate it:
>
> 1) Asterisk's MOH is only broken if you attempt to build a
>VOIP-only system
Supposedly this was fixed recently. As I don't use MOH, nor am I ever in
a VoIP only system I can't val
Lets see if I understand this logic. I'll restate it:
1) Asterisk's MOH is only broken if you attempt to build a
VOIP-only system
2) Asterisk is not intended for such use. It is a PSTN
oriented PBX that just happens to handle VOIP.
3) Therefore Asterisk is not broken
OK. If you believe #2
Chris,
Good point. As I understand it, the Asterisk software requirement was to
be a PBX between normal telephone lines and VoIP. Maybe even it was just
to replace the expensive PBXs. As such seems to me that it clearly met
and exceeded its design requirements since it utilizes the hardware board
Andrew,
I am running it rather well on a original Pentium 100 Mhz, 32 MB RAM, no
USB adapter. I agree with you this would not be an ideal setup for a
business but in a home it will work rather well. I think it'll handle 2 CO
analog lines fine.
Yes, my wife thinks its overkill. Probably is, but g
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 12:50, Chris Albertson wrote:
>
> Steven,
>
> Good comments but remember good enginerring starts with reading
> the requirements and desiging to those requirements.
> in the case of SIP at least these is an RFC. What is the
> timming requirement on media packets? How is th
> Why make additional hardware whose driver needs be ported to other
> systems when you can make similar dummy interfaces? What happens to the
> systems that don't have PCI buses. I can think of some older MAC
> hardware that can run linux, but not PCI cards. Not that I would bother
> my self with
Steven,
Good comments but remember good enginerring starts with reading
the requirements and desiging to those requirements.
in the case of SIP at least these is an RFC. What is the
timming requirement on media packets? How is the stream
synchronized? I'll read it in the next few days but I'
Was I "that particular poster"? Maybe. But yes! there is
absolutly no need for specialized hardware to meter an 8Ksps
stream out of a PC.
Your example of a MP3 player depending on the hardware is valid but
what about a video player? What does it use to keep a constant
30FPS rate?
Now he
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 11:56, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> > Some one else here has mentioned the quality of software design due to
> > the need for hardware timing. This should be addressed by the fact that
> > many tools are using hardware timing. Mp3 players use the sound device
> > as a timing sour
> Are there USB PCI cards that use the chip that's compatible with
> ztdummy?
So now you're using a $50 USB PCI card, or a $100 FXO/FXS card... you're
adding stuff to the system either way. :-)
Personally I really like the RTC dummy driver. It just locks the alarm at
1024Hz and calls the pro
> It seems you are fairly new to this list. I only see postings going back
> about a month from you. So with this bit of looking up, I am wondering
> if you have bothered looking back in the archives at the fact that all
> of this has been addressed in the past. The only reason you haven't seen
>
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 09:17, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> > Its a free world and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Here's mine
> > on this topic. The cards aren't so expensive (99.95 USD). If they have
> > their own hardware then they don't have to depend on the target system
> > having a part
> > Its a free world and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Here's mine
> > on this topic. The cards aren't so expensive (99.95 USD). If they have
> > their own hardware then they don't have to depend on the target system
> > having a particular configuration. Example: right now I am runni
The only thing that is wrong is that there seems to be some expectation of
Digium that they have to tell things... The source code is available. If
someone isn't happy with the Digium methods then they should find a
solution and post it to the list and/or one of the several Asterisk Wiki's
that are
> Its a free world and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Here's mine
> on this topic. The cards aren't so expensive (99.95 USD). If they have
> their own hardware then they don't have to depend on the target system
> having a particular configuration. Example: right now I am running * on
rnc Info Lists wrote:
Its a free world and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Here's mine
on this topic. The cards aren't so expensive (99.95 USD). If they have
their own hardware then they don't have to depend on the target system
having a particular configuration. Example: right now I a
Its a free world and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Here's mine
on this topic. The cards aren't so expensive (99.95 USD). If they have
their own hardware then they don't have to depend on the target system
having a particular configuration. Example: right now I am running * on
a system
> > If the software needs a specialcard to keep time then the
> > software is broken or poorly designed.
> Don't complain so loudly unless you're willing to contribute the
> fixes. Opinions are like assholes, and you know where that's going.
> Takes something else entirely to fix a perceived prob
Adam Hart wrote:
> From: "Anton Tinchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 1:06 PM
> Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Digium should develop and sell just Dummy card.
> For timing...
>
>
>
>>I'
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 23:50, Chris Albertson wrote:
> If the software needs a specialcard to keep time then the
> software is broken or poorly designed.
Don't complain so loudly unless you're willing to contribute the
fixes. Opinions are like assholes, and you know where that's going.
Takes
From: "Anton Tinchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 1:06 PM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Digium should develop and sell just Dummy card.
For timing...
> I'm first to buy 5 pack. Even for > $30.
&
If the software needs a specialcard to keep time then the
software is broken or poorly designed.
I've written software to control a kind of "video" camera.
(actualy "TDI" or "drift scan" that takes still pictures of
moving abojects.)
that worked at the very low level and in software ganerated
the
I'm first to buy 5 pack. Even for > $30.
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