[Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable

2004-08-04 Thread Florin Andrei
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/04/2212251&tid=158&tid=95&tid=103 Probably some of you already saw this. Now, beyond discussions regarding the legitimacy of such a ruling (whether they have the legal, moral or whatever right to enforce it), there's the technical aspect. Suppose i pro

Re: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable

2004-08-04 Thread Chris Shaw
- Original Message - From: "Florin Andrei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:02 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable > http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/04/2212251&tid=158&tid

RE: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable

2004-08-04 Thread Jay Milk
-dialing anyway. > -Original Message- > From: Florin Andrei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 6:02 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable > > > http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/04/2212251&

Re: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable

2004-08-04 Thread matt . riddell
> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/04/2212251&tid=158&tid=95 > &tid=1 03 > > Probably some of you already saw this. > Now, beyond > discussions regarding the legitimacy of such a ruling > (whether they > have the legal, moral or whatever right to enforce it), > there's the > technical a

RE: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable

2004-08-04 Thread C. Johnson
Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/04/2212251&tid=158&tid=95&tid=1 03 Probably some of you already saw this. Now, beyond discussions regarding the legitimacy of such a ruling (whether they have the legal, moral or whatever right to enforce it),

Re: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable

2004-08-04 Thread Steven P. Donegan
[Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/04/2212251&tid=15 8&tid=95&tid=103 Probably some of you already saw this. Now, beyond discussions regarding the legitimacy of such a ruling (whether they have the legal, moral or whatever ri

Re: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable

2004-08-04 Thread Leo Ann Boon
one I believe. -c -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Florin Andrei Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/04/2212251&am

Re: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable

2004-08-04 Thread Greg Hulands
Me raises his hand. On 05/08/2004, at 10:48 AM, Steven P. Donegan wrote: All in favor of IAX with native encrypted tunneling say Aye :-) Now I'm likely in the target rings of Big Brother :-) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.d

RE: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable

2004-08-04 Thread C. Johnson
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable AFAIK, these records (Nice, Witness) only work on a LAN (through passive sniffing on a hub or using a span port) or through a conference server. Either way, it'll require the RTP to be proxied through the provider. In reality

Re: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable

2004-08-04 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
> Me raises his hand. > > All in favor of IAX with native encrypted tunneling say Aye :-) > > Now I'm likely in the target rings of Big Brother :-) If the voice data passed through a service provider run asterisk system, I'd imagine they'd just get a court order to force IAX encryption to be turn

RE: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable

2004-08-04 Thread Greg Blakely
essage- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 9:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable > > > > Me raises his hand. > >

Re: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable

2004-08-04 Thread Steven P. Donegan
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Me raises his hand. All in favor of IAX with native encrypted tunneling say Aye :-) Now I'm likely in the target rings of Big Brother :-) If the voice data passed through a service provider run asterisk system, I'd imagine they'd just get a court order to fo

Re: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable

2004-08-04 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Blakely) writes: > Does the FCC honestly expect that criminals are going to stop using > encrypted point-to-point VOIP connections just so that they won't be > breaking the law? > > Yeah, right. I'm sure they'll all erase their encrypted IM clients so > that the FCC wil

Re: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable

2004-08-05 Thread Steve Totaro
- Original Message - From: "Chris Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable > - Original Message - > From: "Florin Andrei" <[

Re: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable

2004-08-05 Thread Steve Totaro
d won't even be part of the stream. > >Besides, those who would use VOIP for ill, would probably use direct > >ip-dialing anyway. > > > > > > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: Florin Andrei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Wed