[Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-03 Thread Ryan Courtnage
Hello all, Everyone has probably experienced this at some point in the past: You pick up your analog phone. Rather than hearing dialtone, you are connected with someone who has just called you. Neither you nor them heard a ring. Maybe it's just me, but it seems these "freak incidents" would

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-03 Thread Eric Wieling aka ManxPower
Ryan Courtnage wrote: Hello all, Everyone has probably experienced this at some point in the past: You pick up your analog phone. Rather than hearing dialtone, you are connected with someone who has just called you. Neither you nor them heard a ring. Maybe it's just me, but it seems these "f

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-03 Thread Josiah Bryan
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 11:40 am, Ryan Courtnage wrote: > Hello all, > > Everyone has probably experienced this at some point in the past: > You pick up your analog phone. Rather than hearing dialtone, you are > connected with someone who has just called you. Neither you nor them > heard a ring. >

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-03 Thread Jon Pounder
> Hello all, > > Everyone has probably experienced this at some point in the past: > You pick up your analog phone. Rather than hearing dialtone, you are > connected with someone who has just called you. Neither you nor them > heard a ring. I don't think this is a freak incident at all. It stil

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-03 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On May 3, 2005 11:40 am, Ryan Courtnage wrote: > Everyone has probably experienced this at some point in the past: > You pick up your analog phone. Rather than hearing dialtone, you are > connected with someone who has just called you. Neither you nor them > heard a ring. It's not a freak accide

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-03 Thread Kris Boutilier
> -Original Message- > From: Ryan Courtnage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:41 AM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame? > > > Hello all, > >

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-03 Thread John Novack
Ryan Courtnage wrote: Hello all, Everyone has probably experienced this at some point in the past: You pick up your analog phone. Rather than hearing dialtone, you are connected with someone who has just called you. Neither you nor them heard a ring. Maybe it's just me, but it seems these "f

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-03 Thread Ryan Courtnage
On 3-May-05, at 10:34 AM, Eric Wieling aka ManxPower wrote: Ryan Courtnage wrote: Hello all, Everyone has probably experienced this at some point in the past: You pick up your analog phone. Rather than hearing dialtone, you are connected with someone who has just called you. Neither you nor

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-03 Thread Alexander Lopez
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Wieling aka ManxPower Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:34 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame? Ryan Cour

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-03 Thread Matt Klein
If you're going through a CLEC for your lines, they can probably set the Glare Preference to be You or the Telco. I'm not sure if the Baby Bells would add that preference option for you. -m On Tue, 3 May 2005, Eric Wieling aka ManxPower wrote: Ryan Courtnage wrote: Hello all, Everyone has probab

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-03 Thread Jon Pounder
> Really no one is to "blame" > This is known as Glare, or a head on ( collision ) > Take a basic Telephony course before attempting to become a telecom > engineer. > > Back in the "good old days" a PBX would have analog trunks that were > ground start, and tip was open when idle. The PBX would

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-03 Thread Eric Wieling aka ManxPower
Ryan Courtnage wrote: On 3-May-05, at 10:34 AM, Eric Wieling aka ManxPower wrote: Ryan Courtnage wrote: Hello all, Everyone has probably experienced this at some point in the past: You pick up your analog phone. Rather than hearing dialtone, you are connected with someone who has just called yo

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-03 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On May 3, 2005 02:22 pm, Ryan Courtnage wrote: > From what I've read, glare is common in 2-way loopstart (kewlstart) > circuits, and is impossible(?) to eliminate completely. But now I'm > wondering what Nortel would tell a customer who experiences glare on > their new Meridian system... they mus

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-03 Thread Charlie Watts
Ryan Courtnage wrote: > On 3-May-05, at 10:34 AM, Eric Wieling aka ManxPower wrote: >> It's called "glare". > > Thank you, I'm now walking down the right path. > > From what I've read, glare is common in 2-way loopstart (kewlstart) > circuits, and is impossible(?) to eliminate completely. But n

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-03 Thread Henry Devito
sk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame? On 3-May-05, at 10:34 AM, Eric Wieling aka ManxPower wrote: Ryan Courtnage wrote: Hello all, Everyone has probably experienced this at s

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-03 Thread Peter Svensson
On Tue, 3 May 2005, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: > On May 3, 2005 02:22 pm, Ryan Courtnage wrote: > > From what I've read, glare is common in 2-way loopstart (kewlstart) > > circuits, and is impossible(?) to eliminate completely. But now I'm > > wondering what Nortel would tell a customer who experie

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-04 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On May 4, 2005 02:54 am, Peter Svensson wrote: > Unfortunatly Asterisk as a cpe device neither lets the net end allocate > the B channel, nor does it retry using a different B channel. The problem > is that Asterisk does not see the whole PRI as a single link with several > channels, it sees the in

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-04 Thread Rich Adamson
> > Everyone has probably experienced this at some point in the past: > > You pick up your analog phone. Rather than hearing dialtone, you are > > connected with someone who has just called you. Neither you nor them > > heard a ring. > > > > Maybe it's just me, but it seems these "freak incidents

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-04 Thread Rich Adamson
> > Everyone has probably experienced this at some point in the past: > > You pick up your analog phone. Rather than hearing dialtone, you are > > connected with someone who has just called you. Neither you nor them > > heard a ring. > > I don't think this is a freak incident at all. It still ha

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-05 Thread Ryan Courtnage
On 3-May-05, at 9:16 PM, Henry Devito wrote: Nortel and Toshiba and so on help eliminate this by routing outgoing calls starting from the highest trunk backwards and incoming calls of course start from the lowest trunk and work upward. Thanks for everyone's feedback on this. Just to add closure

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Freak incidents, who's to blame?

2005-05-05 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On May 5, 2005 10:05 am, Ryan Courtnage wrote: > Dial(Zap/g2...): Looks in order 1, 2, 5, 8 > Dial(Zap/G2...): Looks in order 8, 5, 2, 1 > Dial(Zap/r2...): Looks in order 8, 1, 2, 5 > Dial(Zap/R2...): Looks in order 2, 1, 8, 5 Let's just be clear. Round Robin (r and R) will go through all the cha