-Original Message-
From: Andrew Kohlsmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On February 23, 2005 10:21 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh I'm sorry. This is the first list I've joined where this
is such a big
issue! Forgive me for not having your superior
understanding of mail
clients,
David Brodbeck wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Kohlsmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On February 23, 2005 10:21 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh I'm sorry. This is the first list I've joined where this
is such a big
issue! Forgive me for not having your superior
understanding of
-Original Message-
From: Steven Critchfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
done. The CTO is highly unlikely to know or care about the
low level technology decisions. It isn't something that
bubbles up to his level or pay grade.
Yes, and if it does, it's usually I heard Asterisk is
To all new subscribers:
This is not a friendly list, and the members are mostly sick of giving
away knowledge they reckon someone should pay for.
Although you will find friendly replies here and there, you'll have to
wade through many obnoxious replies from the * elite.
You will have to help
RIGHT ON!
Too bad you also didn't post in HTML as well
Perhaps this list needs to be split?
One for the folks who simply want to get it working, and another for
the self appointed list police who want to be rude and nasty and are
only interested in feeding their own egos, all the while
ok, not that i'm such an expert myself, but
1. there's a big difference between newbies asking specific question
and the i want asterisk to run my life, make me coffee, and solve my
problems, does asterisk do that? questions that are appearing lately.
I'm not a member of the list police and they
On February 23, 2005 08:25 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is not a friendly list, and the members are mostly sick of giving
away knowledge they reckon someone should pay for.
Although you will find friendly replies here and there, you'll have to
wade through many obnoxious replies from the
Yair wrote:
1. there's a big difference between newbies asking specific question
and the i want asterisk to run my life, make me coffee, and solve my
problems, does asterisk do that? questions that are appearing lately.
Who else is going to tell them that they need a wife? Do we have to be
Andrew wrote:
Please remove your head from your arse and reread what I wrote. THEN hit
the
reply button and post something relevant.
What the hell makes you think this post had anything to do with you?
Thanks for being polite!
Teddy
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On February 23, 2005 09:43 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And specifically in this case, recyclying a subject line that
has nothing to do with your email is just lazy and screws up threads.
Oh beg I your pardon, but I didn't have access to previous messages to
spot that this subject was
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2. many of the list police are active in the development process
well, so your remarkably clever comments about the lack of help are
uncalled for and untrue. People will help you, but they won't hold
your hand. If you want your hand held, then
On February 23, 2005 10:03 am, Peter Svensson wrote:
New Asterisk users should try to help themselves first. Perhaps we should
create a list asterisk-newbies for thos who do not want to go through the
effort of reading up enough to ask well formulated questions.
That already exists.
Peter Svensson wrote:
New Asterisk users should try to help themselves first. Perhaps we should
create a list asterisk-newbies for thos who do not want to go through the
effort of reading up enough to ask well formulated questions.
Strikes me as a very good suggestion.
Perhaps all subscribers to
*spews coffee over keyboard*
- FUNNIEST - THREAD - EVER -
Also one of the most insightful.
Teddy, your gmail invite is on the way.
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to the list? I've never gotten a clear answer. It seems like a hell of a
lot of work to reply to a message, erase everything and start anew.
Oh I'm sorry. This is the first list I've joined where this is such a big
issue! Forgive me for not having your superior understanding of mail
clients,
Please remove your head from your arse and reread what I wrote. THEN hit
the reply button and post something relevant.
What the hell makes you think this post had anything to do with you?
Children! PLEASE! You'll ALL be going to bed with no tea at this rate. I
don't care WHO started it, you can
-Original Message-
From: Peter Svensson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 February 2005 15:04
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] List tips for new subscribers
This list is for discussions among users
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 15:25 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To all new subscribers:
This is not a friendly list, and the members are mostly sick of giving
away knowledge they reckon someone should pay for.
Oh fun, we hit slashdot once again. Here comes a new wave of annoying,
lazy, and 3-10
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 15:19 +, Adrian Chapman wrote:
Peter Svensson wrote:
New Asterisk users should try to help themselves first. Perhaps we should
create a list asterisk-newbies for thos who do not want to go through the
effort of reading up enough to ask well formulated
This list is for discussions among users of Asterisk, not a getting
started hotline for beginners. Beginners learn by reading documentation
and examining the sample files included.
Mmm, I (respectfully) disagree. One of the unstated objectives of mechanisms
like this list is to evangelize the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(side note: If you havent bought their hardware and are using
Asterisk for free them again you should expect even less
assistance imo)
Right, so I have to buy hardware I don't need?
--
Andreas SikkemaRits tele.com
Van Vollenhovenstraat 33016 BE
On February 23, 2005 10:21 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh I'm sorry. This is the first list I've joined where this is such a big
issue! Forgive me for not having your superior understanding of mail
clients, and/or list servers!
You have a *servere* inferiority complex.
I asked a simple
Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] List tips for new subscribers --sorry for
2nd post, missed this.
This list is for discussions among users of Asterisk, not a getting
started hotline for beginners. Beginners learn by reading documentation
and examining the sample files included.
Mmm, I
-Original Message-
From: Andreas Sikkema [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 February 2005 16:07
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] List tips for new subscribers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(side note: If you havent bought
On February 23, 2005 10:54 am, Colin Anderson wrote:
Look, there are two kinds of people (on the list): One that can deal with
the technical implementation of Asterisk and have no problem with it, and
the other kind, that get fired up about the *concept* but are short of the
chops to make it
Whilst some valid points are being made I'd like to add my two pence...
I've been using Asterisk for a year now. In that time I've only asked two
questions: one about the outbound proxy support and one about call transfers.
All the other information I've needed I was able to find in the Wiki,
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 08:54 -0700, Colin Anderson wrote:
This list is for discussions among users of Asterisk, not a getting
started hotline for beginners. Beginners learn by reading documentation
and examining the sample files included.
Mmm, I (respectfully) disagree. One of the unstated
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Kohlsmith) writes:
You did type it yourself, but you replied to a message in a thread
and erased everything, thus screwing up the threading. I think
that's what he was referring to.
Wouldn't it be nice if the mailinglist software were hacked to enforce
some rules?
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 09:05 -0800, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Kohlsmith) writes:
You did type it yourself, but you replied to a message in a thread
and erased everything, thus screwing up the threading. I think
that's what he was referring to.
Wouldn't it be
On February 23, 2005 12:05 pm, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
Wouldn't it be nice if the mailinglist software were hacked to enforce
some rules?
Not really, since it's a crutch -- you're not teaching anyone anything. An
autoreply with the infraction and links to why it's bad might be handy
2 parts, 1 to Andrew, 1 to Mr Critchfield:
Andrew's part follows:
If I am having a particularly bad day I might
jump the re-offender part but that is *very* infrequent and I often
apologize
publically afterward. We are, after all, all human.
First of all, thanks for the well-reasoned
Andreas Sikkema wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(side note: If you havent bought their hardware and are using
Asterisk for free them again you should expect even less
assistance imo)
Right, so I have to buy hardware I don't need?
No, but you have to do research on your own. If, after
On February 23, 2005 12:43 pm, Colin Anderson wrote:
(after all, they are only human) So, try to give them leeway. There are
other ways to drive your point home instead of flaming. (not you,
specifically, but I have seen it and have had it pointed at me, as well)
Exactly -- that is why I said
Colin Anderson wrote:
LESSON FOR NOOB: Don't take it personally. Ask for help in the fashion that
you would be asked. Make sure you have Linux 101 under your belt.
Here, here and I would add ( since I made this mistake ) some basic
telephony understanding.
2. The guy who flames (I was going to
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 10:43 -0700, Colin Anderson wrote:
Mr. Critchfield's part:
First of all, that was an outstanding counterpoint you posted. Time and time
again, you show that you are the smartest person on the list. I'm not trying
to kiss your ass (sounds like it though!), it's pretty
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 10:44 -0800, Roderick A. Anderson wrote:
I'll point out that it is a full moon and my unscientific studies
indicate a pretty strong relation between flames and the lunar cycle. (
Not to mention vehicle drivers and users calling for support. :-)
hehe, maybe I should
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] List tips for new subscribers --sorry for 2nd
post, missed this.
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 08:54 -0700, Colin Anderson wrote:
This list is for discussions among users of Asterisk, not a getting
started hotline
The CTO is highly unlikely to know or care about the low level technology
decisions. It isn't something that bubbles up to his level or pay
grade.
Unless it's presented to him as a means of doing something faster, better,
more cheaply, better interop etc. Isn't that the value proposition in
Colin Anderson wrote:
The CTO is highly unlikely to know or care about the low level technology
decisions. It isn't something that bubbles up to his level or pay
grade.
Unless it's presented to him as a means of doing something faster, better,
more cheaply, better interop etc. Isn't that
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:25:55 -0600, Steven Critchfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hehe, maybe I should go ahead and drive myself home and get away from a
computer for the rest of the day. If you are right, I will probably end
Heheh, maybe not just a day!? :)
up totally pissed before the day is
]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] List tips for new subscribers --sorry for 2
ndpost, missed this.
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:25:55 -0600, Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
hehe, maybe I should go ahead and drive myself home and get away from
a computer for the rest of the day. If you are right, I
On Thu, February 24, 2005 10:52, Anton Krall said:
Guys.. Im new to asterisk and this list in particular but if I may (and
due
to the fact that some people out there might just be saying: you may
not,
I need to add this for you: I dont care), anyways, if I may add a
couple
of points here:
Of Duane
Sent: Miércoles, 23 de Febrero de 2005 06:03 p.m.
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] List tips for new subscribers
On Thu, February 24, 2005 10:52, Anton Krall said:
Guys.. Im new to asterisk and this list in particular but if I may
down on a number of unecessary postings, and their assosciated replies from Mr
Critchfield.
Well, that would be bad, because sometimes the answers from Mr
Critchfield just make me roll on the floor laughing.
Keep up the good work Steven ;)
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On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 21:06 -0500, Time Bandit wrote:
down on a number of unecessary postings, and their assosciated replies from
Mr
Critchfield.
Well, that would be bad, because sometimes the answers from Mr
Critchfield just make me roll on the floor laughing.
Keep up the good work
!!!
-Matt
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Steven Critchfield
Sent: Wed 2/23/2005 11:04 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] List tips for new subscribers --sorry for 2nd
post, missed this.
On Wed
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