RE: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-14 Thread Tom Rymes
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Nickerson Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:29 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable? Tom

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-13 Thread Craig Guy
- Original Message - From: Lee Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable? Darren Nickerson wrote: We

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-13 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 14:03 +0800, Craig Guy wrote: I have downloaded iaxmodem and gone through the readme but not yet installed it. I currently use rxfax to receive in the vicinity of 1200 faxes per day and 5000 or more pages (faxes vary from single page to 30 pages) per E1, with a peak

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-13 Thread Craig Guy
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-13 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 15:55 +0800, Craig Guy wrote: I'm trying to figure out what an appropriate deployment model might be. Whether to have iaxmodem installed on the hylafax server with a switched ethernet connection for iax2 to the * server with the PRI, or to have the iaxmodem on the PRI

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-13 Thread Steve Underwood
Craig Guy wrote: I have downloaded iaxmodem and gone through the readme but not yet installed it. I currently use rxfax to receive in the vicinity of 1200 faxes per day and 5000 or more pages (faxes vary from single page to 30 pages) per E1, with a peak load of about 12 concurrent inbound

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-13 Thread ewr
I have no clear idea how many people actually use my software for fairly high volumes. There are now clearly many thousands successfully using it for modest levels of faxing. I have heard from a few people doing rather higher volumes than you. Other people have problem - I mean genuine

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-13 Thread Lee Howard
Craig Guy wrote: I'm trying to figure out what an appropriate deployment model might be. Whether to have iaxmodem installed on the hylafax server with a switched ethernet connection for iax2 to the * server with the PRI, or to have the iaxmodem on the PRI * server and channel the tty comms

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Bob Goddard
On Tuesday 11 Oct 2005 23:57, Lee Howard wrote: Bob Goddard wrote: On Tuesday 11 Oct 2005 22:41, Lee Howard wrote: Tom Rymes wrote: Use the right tool for the job!!! Use a hardware based DSP for faxing not software based. Why is a soft-DSP to be considered any less-capable than hardware

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Tom Rymes
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Goddard Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 6:35 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Tom Rymes
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 5:09 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Lee Howard
Tom Rymes wrote: (I would like to be able to receive faxes reliably over our PRI) Until then, however, I still recommend HylaFAX. If your PRI comes in to a TE405P or somesuch then you can pass fax DIDs out through another port on the TE405P and out to a T1 faxmodem (such as a Patton

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Bob Goddard
] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable? On Tuesday 11 Oct 2005 22:41, Lee Howard wrote: Tom Rymes wrote: Frankly, I would recommend that you forget about trying to fax with Asterisk. Buy a good Multitech analog modem and install HylaFAX. Use the right tool

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Bob Goddard
: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable? On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 17:01 -0400, Tom Rymes wrote: Frankly, I would recommend that you forget about trying to fax with Asterisk. Buy a good Multitech analog modem and install HylaFAX. Use the right tool for the job

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Tim Litwiller
-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable? On Tuesday 11 Oct 2005 22:41, Lee Howard wrote: Tom Rymes wrote: Frankly, I would recommend that you forget about trying to fax with Asterisk. Buy a good Multitech analog modem and install HylaFAX. Use the right tool for the job!!! Actually

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 16:48 -0500, Tim Litwiller wrote: See IAXModem above for the soft DSP. There is very little info on the sf.net page regarding its capabilities ... Does it only do fax or does it do other data communications? What fax protocols are supported? Does the destination

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Lee Howard
trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote: There is very little info on the sf.net page regarding its capabilities ... Right now that's intentional. I still consider it developer-grade code. That said, I do use it on small production usage, and it's fine there with a few known issues

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Tom Rymes
On Oct 12, 2005, at 3:44 PM, Bob Goddard wrote: Asterisk's faxing capabilities are not nearly as advanced, stable, or easy to set up as HylaFAX. Also, there seem to be many problems with frame slipping and the like that screw up faxing over Digium cards, and maybe others as well. Does

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Tom Rymes
On Oct 12, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Lee Howard wrote: Tom Rymes wrote: (I would like to be able to receive faxes reliably over our PRI) Until then, however, I still recommend HylaFAX. If your PRI comes in to a TE405P or somesuch then you can pass fax DIDs out through another port on the

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 18:18 -0400, Tom Rymes wrote: On Oct 12, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Lee Howard wrote: If your PRI comes in to a TE405P or somesuch then you can pass fax DIDs out through another port on the TE405P and out to a T1 faxmodem (such as a Patton 2977) or a T1 channel bank and

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Lee Howard
Tom Rymes wrote: On Oct 12, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Lee Howard wrote: Tom Rymes wrote: (I would like to be able to receive faxes reliably over our PRI) Until then, however, I still recommend HylaFAX. If your PRI comes in to a TE405P or somesuch then you can pass fax DIDs out through

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Lee Howard
trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote: Cant iaxmodem work by having asterisk bridge the pri channel as needed (did based routing perhaps) and then have hylafax use iaxmodem as the modem it uses. That should result in no additional hardware, which means testing can happen with little cost to

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Tom Rymes
On Oct 12, 2005, at 6:33 PM, trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote: On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 18:18 -0400, Tom Rymes wrote: On Oct 12, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Lee Howard wrote: If your PRI comes in to a TE405P or somesuch then you can pass fax DIDs out through another port on the TE405P and out

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 18:45 -0400, Tom Rymes wrote: This is true, but: 1.) Lee has stated that IAXModem is still Developer-grade code. 2.) I don't have a spare PRI for testing, and our phone system is far too mission critical for me to go mucking about with it and trying this out

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Tom Rymes
On Oct 12, 2005, at 6:58 PM, trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote: On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 18:45 -0400, Tom Rymes wrote: This is true, but: 1.) Lee has stated that IAXModem is still Developer-grade code. 2.) I don't have a spare PRI for testing, and our phone system is far too mission

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 19:19 -0400, Tom Rymes wrote: Would that not solve in the short term all of those issues or am I missing something? Well, I can redirect a DID to it, but I have no fax traffic going to that DID, and I am still reluctant to install developer-grade code on my

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Lee Howard
trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote: Perhaps Lee can comment on exactly how 'development grade' it really is, perhaps even cite some test cases where people have used it on larger scale operations (ie larger than a home users 1-2 times a month or less). According to sourceforge, there

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Darren Nickerson
Lee Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I have a Patton 2977 (driven by HylaFAX), connected via crossover to one port on a TE405P (driven by Asterisk) which has another port connected to the T1 from the telco. Asterisk bridges the two for sending and receiving. Receiving is wonderful.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Lee Howard
Darren Nickerson wrote: We prefer the Eicon Diva server and Brooktrout TR1034 boards, which are known to work well with HylaFAX since we've had our share of headaches with the 2977's. Well, part of my preference for the 2977s involves my strong dislike for the way that the Diva Servers and

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Darren Nickerson
Lee Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, part of my preference for the 2977s involves my strong dislike for the way that the Diva Servers and BrookTrouts do things. It's enough of a dislike to get me over the learning curve of how to properly set up the 2977s for HylaFAX use. I agree, there's a

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-12 Thread Lee Howard
Darren Nickerson wrote: I'm curious though, in an earlier message you wrote: Sending is also quite good, however, there are some quirks with the Patton firmware which need to be resolved for me to be completely delighted. Are these issues you refer to just cosmetic 'nice to haves' or do

[Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-11 Thread JC van der Walt
Hi All, - I have Digium cards and given that the archives point out the Digium cards drop packets does anyone know what hardware would not do this? (i.e. Allow me to send outbound faxes) - If there is still an issue with the wctdm driver, does anyone know which asterisk/spandsp combo would

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-11 Thread Tom Rymes
Frankly, I would recommend that you forget about trying to fax with Asterisk. Buy a good Multitech analog modem and install HylaFAX. Use the right tool for the job!!! Tom On Oct 11, 2005, at 10:32 AM, JC van der Walt wrote: Hi All, - I have Digium cards and given that the archives point

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-11 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 17:01 -0400, Tom Rymes wrote: Frankly, I would recommend that you forget about trying to fax with Asterisk. Buy a good Multitech analog modem and install HylaFAX. Use the right tool for the job!!! Asterisk may be able to fax better in the somewhat near future. One of

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-11 Thread Lee Howard
Tom Rymes wrote: Frankly, I would recommend that you forget about trying to fax with Asterisk. Buy a good Multitech analog modem and install HylaFAX. Use the right tool for the job!!! Actually, you can use HylaFAX and Asterisk together. https://sourceforge.net/projects/iaxmodem/ Just

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-11 Thread Bob Goddard
On Tuesday 11 Oct 2005 22:41, Lee Howard wrote: Tom Rymes wrote: Frankly, I would recommend that you forget about trying to fax with Asterisk. Buy a good Multitech analog modem and install HylaFAX. Use the right tool for the job!!! Actually, you can use HylaFAX and Asterisk together.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Which asterisk-friendly cards are fax-capable?

2005-10-11 Thread Lee Howard
Bob Goddard wrote: On Tuesday 11 Oct 2005 22:41, Lee Howard wrote: Tom Rymes wrote: Use the right tool for the job!!! Use a hardware based DSP for faxing not software based. Why is a soft-DSP to be considered any less-capable than hardware ones? The reason why I put