[Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-14 Thread Brian West
First of all I would like to thank Mark for getting roundrobin to go roundrobin. Good job. Now we have some options here for leastrecent and fewestcalls strategy. It needs some work on the logic and Mark recommend that I ask the list and get some input before he makes any changes to it. fewestca

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-14 Thread Richard Lyman
my point was your logic regarding 'calculating magic/metric' for extremely long call times shouldn't be part of the 'logic' it SHOULD be 'inhouse' policy where the mgr gives agentA a nice long chat about how to sell/service the client more effectively. i know there is at least one other out there

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-14 Thread Richard Lyman
ok and what happens when agentA in on a 3 hour call? once again i think this type of 'senario' should be covered by 'in house' policy.. not some super queue tweek Brian West wrote: Ok just had my boss point something out: "I'd think dumping calls on most-idle would be fairly straightforward,

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-14 Thread Richard Lyman
translation: manager gets off thier fat ass and actually talks to agentA regarding 'INHOUSE' policies, and how it will effect the agents employment! Brian West wrote: But how do you translate inhouse to logic for app_queue. :P On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Richard Lyman wrote: ok and what happen

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Friedeck
In our original spec for Digium, leastrecent was specifically 'agent who answered a call longest ago for that queue'. (not a direct quote) It would then go to the next agent in order of 'longest go'. Has this changed? Does it immediatly go roundrobin by agent number or agent load order? Thanks.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Friedeck
Very good. We need leastrecent before deployment. Just a basic sorting of 'leastrecent-ness' should work for us. For now, anyway. Jim --- Brian West wrote: It just rings the fewestcalls or leastrecent over and over.. it doesn't hunt one bit right now. Thats why

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-14 Thread Simon Woodhead
MAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic Well their are a few diffrent ways to do a roundrobin type setup. One I didn't mention is circular. Circular is like this. You h

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-14 Thread Brian West
But how do you translate inhouse to logic for app_queue. :P On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Richard Lyman wrote: > ok and what happens when agentA in on a 3 hour call? once again i think > this type of 'senario' should be covered by 'in house' policy.. not some > super queue tweek > > Brian West wrote: > >

RE: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan Littlepage
Use erlang calculations to decide which is most idle. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian West > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:27 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queu

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-14 Thread Brian West
quot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:06 PM > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic > > > First of all I would like to thank Mark for getting roundrobin to go > roundrobin. Good job. >

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-14 Thread Brian West
Ok just had my boss point something out: "I'd think dumping calls on most-idle would be fairly straightforward, but could be skewed if agentA is on a 40 minute call, agentB has a bunch of 5 minute calls" So total call time should be counted in the logic somewhere. bkw On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Brian

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-14 Thread Brian West
I see. :P On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Richard Lyman wrote: > my point was your logic regarding 'calculating magic/metric' for > extremely long call times shouldn't be part of the 'logic' it > SHOULD be 'inhouse' policy where the mgr gives agentA a nice long > chat about how to sell/service the client mo

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-14 Thread Brian West
I was speaking in a logic related to real call routing and queueing. In House policy can be built on top of your call strategy. What we are needing is input on logic only .. bkw On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Richard Lyman wrote: > translation: manager gets off thier fat ass and actually talks to > age

RE: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-14 Thread Adam Goryachev
> First of all I would like to thank Mark for getting roundrobin to go > roundrobin. Good job. Exactly, the whole queue system seems significantly better than it was not so long ago. Thank very much! > Now we have some options here for leastrecent and fewestcalls strategy. It > needs some work o

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-14 Thread Brian West
It just rings the fewestcalls or leastrecent over and over.. it doesn't hunt one bit right now. Thats why I posted to the list so Mark could get an idea of what people would like to see before he fixes fewestcalls and leastrecent logic. bkw On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Jim Friedeck wrote: > In our orig

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-14 Thread Richard Lyman
well if you ask me, the leastrecent part would work if you reversed the logic on the metric. my other last_used mod would do a time_t on that agent the last time it was 'tried' (ast_request'd) then (i was using arrays) qsort so that (new agents) '0' would be on top, and the agent that got the m

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-12 Thread Brian West
I think we are starting to see what type of logic people are wanting in fewestcalls and leastrecent strategy. bkw On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Richard Lyman wrote: > i disagree, instead of thinking 'fallback' how about 'order' the agents > (by effecting the 'metric') so you 'target' the agent you want f

RE: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-12 Thread McAughan, Matt
Title: RE: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic Most idle or longest idle should have nothing to do with how long your last call was, or total call time. Longest idle is supposed to be the agent who has been sitting there the longest since the last call was taken

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-11 Thread Richard Lyman
and just so we are on the same page.. i wasn't talking about 'roundrobin' on that last reply... roundrobin will always favor whoever is at the 'front' of the list. the metric logic, needs to (in my small mind) 'order' the agents in a 'if this method, they are ordered this way' aspect. so if th

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-11 Thread Mark Spencer
It would if the user was *busy* not if they don't answer. Mark On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Brian West wrote: > It just rings the fewestcalls or leastrecent over and over.. it doesn't > hunt one bit right now. Thats why I posted to the list so Mark could get > an idea of what people would like to see b

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-10 Thread Richard Lyman
i disagree, instead of thinking 'fallback' how about 'order' the agents (by effecting the 'metric') so you 'target' the agent you want first then if fail they go right to the next one in the 'ordered' list. Brian West wrote: leastrecent suffers the same fait as fewestcalls onlying ringing the l

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-10 Thread Brian West
leastrecent suffers the same fait as fewestcalls onlying ringing the leastrecent agent over and over endlessly. It should have a fallback option. roundrobin with leastrecent first roundrobin with fewestcalls first I would like to see a roundrobin with leastbusy first option. (just because you ha

Re: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic

2003-08-09 Thread Simon Woodhead
ys be the first and the order thereafter always the same? W - Original Message - From: "Brian West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:06 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] app_queue, fewestcalls and leastrecent logic First