Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014: Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI(Ben Klang)

2014-10-30 Thread Paul Albrecht
On Oct 29, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Matthew Jordan wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Paul Albrecht wrote: >> >> On Oct 28, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Ben Langfeld wrote: >> >> On 28 October 2014 19:47, Derek Andrew wrote: >>> >>> What is the alternative to the dial plan? Is everyone talking about

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014: Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI (Ben Klang)

2014-10-30 Thread Paul Albrecht
On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Ben Klang wrote: > >> On 10/28/2014 06:03 PM, Ben Langfeld wrote: >>> On 28 October 2014 19:47, Derek Andrew wrote: >>> What is the alternative to the dial plan? Is everyone talking about getting >>> rid of the statements like: >>> exten => s,1, >>> >>> what is t

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014: Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI (Ben Klang)

2014-10-29 Thread Paul Albrecht
On Oct 28, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Ben Langfeld wrote: > On 28 October 2014 19:47, Derek Andrew wrote: > What is the alternative to the dial plan? Is everyone talking about getting > rid of the statements like: > exten => s,1, > > what is the alternative? > > Remote applications based on APIs lik

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014: Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI (Ben Klang)

2014-10-28 Thread Paul Albrecht
Not asking for unqualified promises about the future of Asterisk. Simply asking for an acknowledgment of the obvious, that is, Asterisk without the dial plan wouldn’t be Asterisk. The fact that one is not forthcoming raises a red flag with respect to the future of Asterisk. Furthermore, adding

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014:Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI (Ben Klang)

2014-10-27 Thread Paul Albrecht
The reason the dial plan can never be deprecated is because Asterisk wouldn’t be Asterisk without the dial plan. Sure, you could re-engineer Asterisk so that it would be “better" for a small select group of users at the expense of the majority of community that use the product as designed for t

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014:Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI(Ben Klang)

2014-10-24 Thread Paul Albrecht
On Oct 23, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Kevin Larsen wrote: > > From: Paul Albrecht > > > Seems like now is as good a time as any to raise these issues, in > > fact, sooner is better than later because once developers start down > > a path it’s very difficult to get them change their minds no matter

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014: Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI(Ben Klang)

2014-10-23 Thread Matthew Jordan
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Paul Albrecht wrote: > > On Oct 23, 2014, at 1:55 AM, Olle E Johansson wrote: > > > It is critical that a group of developers ask themself questions along > > these lines - "what if???" > > > > - What if we removed AGi and AMI? > > - What if we made a pluggable

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014:Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI(Ben Klang)

2014-10-23 Thread Kevin Larsen
> From: Paul Albrecht > Seems like now is as good a time as any to raise these issues, in > fact, sooner is better than later because once developers start down > a path it’s very difficult to get them change their minds no matter > how much sense it makes. The fact that developers are even >

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014: Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI(Ben Klang)

2014-10-23 Thread Paul Albrecht
On Oct 23, 2014, at 1:55 AM, Olle E Johansson wrote: > It is critical that a group of developers ask themself questions along > these lines - "what if???" > > - What if we removed AGi and AMI? > - What if we made a pluggable PBX? > - What if we restarted working on a SIP channel? > - What if w

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014: Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI(Ben Klang)

2014-10-23 Thread Paul Albrecht
On Oct 22, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Jordan wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Paul Albrecht wrote: > > On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Matthew Jordan wrote: > >> >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Paul Albrecht wrote: >> >> On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Joshua Colp wrote: >>

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014:Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI(Ben Klang)

2014-10-23 Thread Paul Albrecht
On Oct 22, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Kevin Larsen wrote: > > From: Paul Albrecht > > Here’s a link to the minutes: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/ > > display/AST/AstriDevCon+2014 > > > > It has you saying: Leif: we're in a transition, moving from dialplan > > model to external control model. Pro

[asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014: Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI (Ben Klang)

2014-10-22 Thread Paul Albrecht
Really? Shouldn’t something this major affecting the entire Asterisk community get discussed on the lists? Any idea what Leif is talking about when he says the community is in transition, moving from dial plan model to external control? Here’s a link to the notes posted on the Asterisk wiki: h