Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-28 Thread Matt Riddell
On 25/04/10 7:00 AM, bruce bruce wrote: Adobe Air and Adobe FMS are good examples of VoIP working flawlessly over TCP. We are actually developing a flash phone which needs only TCP to transmit both signal and audio. Ok, let's look at that (UDP vs TCP for realtime stream). Let's call the

Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-24 Thread Michael Graves
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:11:06 +0200, ad...@3a.hu wrote: Hi Guys, On 04-23-2010 21:40, Nathan Clemons wrote: SIP is just the control protocol, and can be negotiated over TCP or UDP. The actual payload is done over RTP, which is a UDP-based protocol. thanks, for both of you for pointing this

Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-24 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria
Doesn't surprise me if Microsoft tries sending RTP over TCP. Maybe their engineers didn't know basics of VoIP when they were programming their communication server. Zeeshan A Zakaria -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. On 2010-04-24 12:04 PM, Michael Graves mgra...@mstvp.com wrote: On

Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-24 Thread Philipp von Klitzing
Hi! Doesn't surprise me if Microsoft tries sending RTP over TCP. Maybe their engineers didn't know basics of VoIP when they were programming their communication server. Not quite - doing SIP over TCP rather then UDP is the right thing to do (tm). It's just that everyone started out with UDP

Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-24 Thread David Backeberg
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:21 PM, ad...@3a.hu wrote: i have to put an * between two other SIP gateways and due to some circumstances, i have to use sip over tcp.  With 1.6.2.6 this is working fine: sip gw A (deverto4) sends the call, i hand it over to sip gw B (ocs) and that's about it.  In

Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-24 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria
RTP stands for Real-Time Transport Protocol. TCP is not designed to deal with real-time data transfer as it takes time to acknowledge packets and re-send them if missing. All audio video data transfer happens in real time, and it doesn't make any sense to retransmit missing packets. Real time

Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-24 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Sat, 2010-04-24 at 10:56 -0500, Michael Graves wrote: On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:11:06 +0200, ad...@3a.hu wrote: Hi Guys, On 04-23-2010 21:40, Nathan Clemons wrote: SIP is just the control protocol, and can be negotiated over TCP or UDP. The actual payload is done over RTP, which is a

Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-24 Thread bruce bruce
Adobe Air and Adobe FMS are good examples of VoIP working flawlessly over TCP. We are actually developing a flash phone which needs only TCP to transmit both signal and audio. -Bruce On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Zeeshan Zakaria zisha...@gmail.com wrote: RTP stands for Real-Time Transport

Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-24 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria
Adobe has not been successful in VoIP. I have worked for two companies who were trying to make flash phones, and it always came down to the issue of RTP over TCP. This is the primary reason there are no successfully working flash phones out there though some companies are trying to offer service

[asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-23 Thread adamk
Hi List, i have to put an * between two other SIP gateways and due to some circumstances, i have to use sip over tcp. With 1.6.2.6 this is working fine: sip gw A (deverto4) sends the call, i hand it over to sip gw B (ocs) and that's about it. In the other direction however (ocs - me -

Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-23 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria
I don't think RTP can be sent over TCP at all, it would defeat the whole purpose of RTP. Even if you somehow manage to do so, voice quality will go down the drain. Zeeshan A Zakaria -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. On 2010-04-23 3:27 PM, ad...@3a.hu wrote: Hi List, i have to put

Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-23 Thread Nathan Clemons
SIP is just the control protocol, and can be negotiated over TCP or UDP. The actual payload is done over RTP, which is a UDP-based protocol. If you had to add firewall exceptions/PAT config for the TCP SIP traffic, you'll also need to add the same for RTP traffic as well. -- Nathan Clemons On

Re: [asterisk-users] RTP over TCP

2010-04-23 Thread adamk
Hi Guys, On 04-23-2010 21:40, Nathan Clemons wrote: SIP is just the control protocol, and can be negotiated over TCP or UDP. The actual payload is done over RTP, which is a UDP-based protocol. thanks, for both of you for pointing this out. i was obviously on the wrong track here. since i