Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-09-06 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Sat, 1 Sep 2007, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 04:38:19AM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: You mentioned that the two disks are identical. Hence there's a large chance that they're from the same batch. This increases the chance of them failing together :-p In practice,

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-09-02 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 12:04:14AM -0400, Zane C.B. wrote: How the hell is mirroring using GEOM under FreeBSD more complex than what it takes to get something very vaguely similar under Linux? It is more complex than a straight, non-software-RAID installation on BSD. This is all I meant. I

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-09-02 Thread Zane C.B.
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:46:19 +0300 Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 12:04:14AM -0400, Zane C.B. wrote: How the hell is mirroring using GEOM under FreeBSD more complex than what it takes to get something very vaguely similar under Linux? It is more complex

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-09-01 Thread Zane C.B.
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:51:19 -0600 Stephen Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zane C.B. wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:37:26 -0600 Stephen Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zane C.B. wrote: 1: Software RAID on Linux is way less than impressive. Plus last a I checked Linux can't handle

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-09-01 Thread Zane C.B.
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:08:05 -0700 shadowym [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still true on CentOS 5. You can only RAID partitions unless you do the LVM thing. What are the disadvantages compared to being able to RAID the whole disk? Maybe for monitoring it's just more to deal with but does it make

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-09-01 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 07:29:09PM -0400, Zane C.B. wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:08:05 -0700 shadowym [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still true on CentOS 5. You can only RAID partitions unless you do the LVM thing. What are the disadvantages compared to being able to RAID the whole disk?

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-09-01 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 04:38:19AM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: You mentioned that the two disks are identical. Hence there's a large chance that they're from the same batch. This increases the chance of them failing together :-p In practice, though, we've never had both halves of a RAID 1 pair

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-09-01 Thread Zane C.B.
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 04:38:19 +0300 Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 07:29:09PM -0400, Zane C.B. wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:08:05 -0700 shadowym [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still true on CentOS 5. You can only RAID partitions unless you do the LVM thing.

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk (Andrew Joakimsen)

2007-08-28 Thread Vidura Senadeera
Dear Andrew, Thanks for your kind responce. Regards, vidura. = Motherboard with SATA RAID1 support That's a mulit-port SATA controller with RAID in the driver (software). 256 MB RAM Use a little more RAM. digium PRI/E1 card Is there any reason you aren't

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-26 Thread Stephen Bosch
Zane C.B. wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:37:26 -0600 Stephen Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zane C.B. wrote: 1: Software RAID on Linux is way less than impressive. Plus last a I checked Linux can't handle mirroring a entire disk. Last I looked at it around a year ago you were limited to

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-25 Thread Andrew Joakimsen
On 8/20/07, Vidura Senadeera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Motherboard with SATA RAID1 support That's a mulit-port SATA controller with RAID in the driver (software). 256 MB RAM Use a little more RAM. digium PRI/E1 card Is there any reason you aren't using Sangoma cards? 1. If I use Software

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-24 Thread shadowym
. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:06 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:37:26 -0600 Stephen Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zane C.B. wrote: 1

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-23 Thread Zane C.B.
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:50:57 -0400 Dave Fullerton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zane C.B. wrote: On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 07:33:23 +0530 Vidura Senadeera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, I would like to get community's feedback with regard to RAID1 ( Software or Hardware) implementations

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-23 Thread Zane C.B.
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:37:26 -0600 Stephen Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zane C.B. wrote: 1: Software RAID on Linux is way less than impressive. Plus last a I checked Linux can't handle mirroring a entire disk. Last I looked at it around a year ago you were limited to only mirroring

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-22 Thread Richard Scobie
Steve Totaro wrote: I guess I am just lucky to have 24 hour manned data centers with staff that walk around looking for flashing LEDs. I am sure there is some error thrown in /var/log/messages about a failure that could be used to trigger a notification quite trivially. Both smartd

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-22 Thread Steven
For RAID1, I am not sure. But for RAID 5, You should always use hardware RAID. If you use software RAID and your CPU spikes for too long, you can corrupt your disks. I have seen this several times. -- -- Steven http://www.glimasoutheast.org Vidura Senadeera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-22 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Steven wrote: For RAID1, I am not sure. But for RAID 5, You should always use hardware RAID. If you use software RAID and your CPU spikes for too long, you can corrupt your disks. I have seen this several times. Please report this to the linux-raid mailling list,

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-22 Thread shadowym
run as a web interface or command line so the whole monitoring argument is mute IMHO. -Original Message- From: Arnaud Ligot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:45 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-22 Thread Stephen Bosch
Gordon Henderson wrote: You do (sometimes) need the hardware RAID controller to be supported by Linux and this is a weak area. Some controllers just look like a standard drive, so they are transparent to the system, but then you need to use either the BIOS utilities to set it up in the

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-22 Thread Stephen Bosch
Zane C.B. wrote: 1: Software RAID on Linux is way less than impressive. Plus last a I checked Linux can't handle mirroring a entire disk. Last I looked at it around a year ago you were limited to only mirroring partitions, which is a joke from a administrative standpoint. How is this any

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-21 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, Vidura Senadeera wrote: Dear All, I would like to get community's feedback with regard to RAID1 ( Software or Hardware) implementations with asterisk. This is my setup Motherboard with SATA RAID1 support CENT OS 4.4 Asterisk 1.2.19 Libpri/zaptel latest release 2.8

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk (Vidura Senadeera)

2007-08-21 Thread Vidura Senadeera
Dear all, Thanks for the greate explanation regaing Software/H/W Raid. This details better but on voip-info.org/wiki pages. Thanks lot agian. Regs, Vidura Senadeera. == Dear All, I would like to get community's feedback with regard to RAID1 (

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-21 Thread Russ Price
C F wrote: ~# cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid1] md0 : active raid1 sdb2[2](F) sda2[1] 76139968 blocks [2/1] [_U] unused devices: none The above is from an active system that one hdd failed. It would take way longer to find such a thing on a hardware raid. Unless it came

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-21 Thread Zane C.B.
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 07:33:23 +0530 Vidura Senadeera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, I would like to get community's feedback with regard to RAID1 ( Software or Hardware) implementations with asterisk. This is my setup Motherboard with SATA RAID1 support CENT OS 4.4 Asterisk 1.2.19

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-21 Thread Dave Fullerton
Zane C.B. wrote: On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 07:33:23 +0530 Vidura Senadeera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, I would like to get community's feedback with regard to RAID1 ( Software or Hardware) implementations with asterisk. This is my setup Motherboard with SATA RAID1 support CENT OS 4.4

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-21 Thread Steve Totaro
I thought that was what the flashing LEDs on the front of the server's HDs were for (besides showing activity). Some I have seen also have an LED near the power button to indicate HD problems. I guess if you are building your own boxen and not using enterprise grade servers, this is not the

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-21 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, Steve Totaro wrote: I thought that was what the flashing LEDs on the front of the server's HDs were for (besides showing activity). Some I have seen also have an LED near the power button to indicate HD problems. I guess if you are building your own boxen and not using

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-21 Thread Arnaud Ligot
My servers run in a datacenter, 50km away from my office... if a led flash, if the speaker beep... I think I'll not see/hear it ... My servers are monitored using nagios which has a plugin for software raid... so if one array goes down, I receive a mail/sms/call/... futher more, everything is on

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-21 Thread Steve Totaro
I guess I am just lucky to have 24 hour manned data centers with staff that walk around looking for flashing LEDs. I am sure there is some error thrown in /var/log/messages about a failure that could be used to trigger a notification quite trivially. Thanks, Steve Arnaud Ligot wrote: My

[asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-20 Thread Vidura Senadeera
Dear All, I would like to get community's feedback with regard to RAID1 ( Software or Hardware) implementations with asterisk. This is my setup Motherboard with SATA RAID1 support CENT OS 4.4 Asterisk 1.2.19 Libpri/zaptel latest release 2.8 Ghz Intel processor 2 80 GB SATA Hard disks 256 MB RAM

Re: [asterisk-users] Saftware RAID1 or Hardware RAID1 with Asterisk

2007-08-20 Thread C F
While hardware RAID tend to be more reliable, it is not always possible to properly monitor hardware raid in a linux system, unless you write your own code. Consider this: ~# cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid1] md0 : active raid1 sdb2[2](F) sda2[1] 76139968 blocks [2/1] [_U] unused