Leo Ann Boon wrote:
Andrew Joakimsen wrote:
Most of the Cisco phones sold cheap are UNLICENSED (global spare)
thus you would not be able to purchase (or at least aren't supposed
to) the smartnet contracts, you need to buy the license ($100+) and
the contract ($10 or so)
I'm always surprised by
Most of the Cisco phones sold cheap are UNLICENSED (global spare)
thus you would not be able to purchase (or at least aren't supposed
to) the smartnet contracts, you need to buy the license ($100+) and
the contract ($10 or so)
On 1/10/07, Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Thomas
Andrew Joakimsen wrote:
Most of the Cisco phones sold cheap are UNLICENSED (global spare)
thus you would not be able to purchase (or at least aren't supposed
to) the smartnet contracts, you need to buy the license ($100+) and
the contract ($10 or so)
I'm always surprised by by the number of
David Thomas wrote:
This is by far the most volotile list I have ever been on. I'm not
sure that's exactly the reputation Digium/Asterisk is shooting for,
but even so it does provide some much needed comedy relief.
Alas, it was't even related to the OP's problem. He was just trying to
figure
C F wrote:
I knew I was doing the right thing, here is the proof, enjoy when you
read it, and have a good laugh.
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From: Al Bochter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Jan 8, 2007 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: [EMAIL
Hi
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 06:20:04AM -0800, Derek Whitten wrote:
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At least you didn't top-post.
and have a nice day
Thank you. Now could we please get
This is by far the most volotile list I have ever been on. I'm not
sure that's exactly the reputation Digium/Asterisk is shooting for,
but even so it does provide some much needed comedy relief.
After seeing the G.729 pricing direct from SIPRO, I now take the
shut-up and be thankful position. I
David Thomas wrote:
This is by far the most volotile list I have ever been on. I'm not
sure that's exactly the reputation Digium/Asterisk is shooting for,
but even so it does provide some much needed comedy relief.
After seeing the G.729 pricing direct from SIPRO, I now take the
shut-up and
(C)harlie (F)oxtrot
Incredible! I didn't see it until just now. I use postini and it was in
the quarantine with a XXX icon as the reason it got filtered.
Let's set up a betting pool on him. :)
C F wrote:
I knew I was doing the right thing, here is the proof, enjoy when you
read it, and have
.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Al Bochter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Jan 8, 2007 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(C)UNT (F)UCK!
THIS IS OFF THE LIST
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!
GET A JOB AND STOP LIVING OFF MY TAXES
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING
David
So do you think Digum and Sipro is now one in the same code with G729 in
mind?
Best regards,
Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
David Thomas wrote:
This is by far the most volotile list I have ever been on. I'm not
sure that's exactly the
On 1/9/07, Al Bochter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So do you think Digum and Sipro is now one in the same code with G729 in
mind?
If saying this will make this go away, then yes. They both use the same
code. The patented code is the same.
___
Al Bochter wrote:
Derek Whitten
Messages like this SHOULD NOT be posted to the list
I have been trying to block you from my servers do to your abuse
I will add this email address to the list also and contract your service
provider.
You are not doing the right thing you are acting like
Hi
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 05:59:55PM -0500, Al Bochter wrote:
Derek Whitten
Messages like this SHOULD NOT be posted to the list
I fully agree here.
However:
I have been trying to block you from my servers do to your abuse
If you want to blacklist someone on your own servers. However
/var/lib/asterisk/licenses
:-)
On 1/8/07, Xue Liangliang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, leo, I will try the following solution that seperate
/usr/lib/asterisk/modules in another patition other than drbd, then
register the licenses on both server. not sure where the license key
acutally lies
: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
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Xue Liangliang wrote:
Hi, all
I am a pabx
Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
I connect to a PSTN carrier over SIP which requires me to connect with
a g729 codec. I'm using them for just robocalling: Asterisk server
originates calls which play a prerecorded file. Can I pre-encode those
stored files in g729 so they don't need to be encoded
Thank you, that is excellent advice.
I understand that Intel has a free g729 codec, and that there might be
others. Free g729 codecs cheat Digium of some income that helps keep
them producing free Asterisk (and hosting lists like this one), but what
other reasons (quality,
Biggest feature: You need a patent license to use the codec. The intel
software does not include a patent license.
Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
Thank you, that is excellent advice.
I understand that Intel has a free g729 codec, and that there might be
others. Free g729 codecs cheat
calls?
On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:08 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
asterisk-users
Al Bochter wrote:
What about the free open source G729
To use a g729 codec you must pay a license fee to the patent holder. It
is immaterial as to whether the implementation is open/closed source.
___
--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by
Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
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Xue Liangliang
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 10:51:03AM -0500, Al Bochter wrote:
What about the free open source G729
There's no such thing ... g.729 (as per the ITU specification) is patent
encumbered. Anyone USING the codec has to pay a license to the patent
holders.
Digium have negotiated a bulk-buying
What about the free open source G729
There's no such thing ... g.729 (as per the ITU specification) is patent
encumbered. Anyone USING the codec has to pay a license to the patent
holders.
I believe (this may have changed) that ANY patented technology can be used
for free educationally. The
for the
preencoder? If the robocalls accept incoming DTMF, do I need g729
licenses for those calls?
On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:08 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license
Jerry wrote:
What about the free open source G729
There's no such thing ... g.729 (as per the ITU specification) is patent
encumbered. Anyone USING the codec has to pay a license to the patent
holders.
I believe (this may have changed) that ANY patented technology can be used
for
Mike,
So tell me what this FREE open source G729 is
I am told that you can use these Codecs with your Asterisk !
http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/ipp-codecs-g729-g723.1/
You can do it Freely !!
Best regards,
Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
Mike
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 02:53:39PM -0500, Al Bochter wrote:
So tell me what this FREE open source G729 is
I am told that you can use these Codecs with your Asterisk !
[1]http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/ipp-codecs-g729-g723.1/
You can do it Freely !!
No, Ready Technology
On 1/8/07, Al Bochter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike,
So tell me what this FREE open source G729 is
I am told that you can use these Codecs with your Asterisk !
http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/ipp-codecs-g729-g723.1/
You can do it Freely !!
Al, I don't know if you're stupid, or you
Performance/Price wise which implementation of the codec is better?
Digium or the Ready Tech/Intel IPP code?
I'm looking at building a 4 PRI g.729 Asterisk box (Dell 2 x dual
core, Digium 4 T1 + echo canceller). Which codec would provide the
best audio quality?
--
Matthew S. Crocker
Al Bochter wrote:
Mike,
So tell me what this FREE open source G729 is
I am told that you can use these Codecs with your Asterisk !
http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/ipp-codecs-g729-g723.1/
You can do it Freely !!
Please read the entire page. From the link you sent:
Why NOT G.729?
Matthew Crocker wrote:
I'm looking at building a 4 PRI g.729 Asterisk box (Dell 2 x dual core,
Digium 4 T1 + echo canceller). Which codec would provide the best audio
quality?
G.729 is G.729 (assuming same suffixes like B, C, etc.). Audio quality
is exactly the same, or the implementations
Mike
I understand that.
but it states on there site and note the key words may need
What I want to know is if you buy 10 licenses from digum can use the
Open Souce code?
As long as you don't transcode than 10 at a time. Is that legal?
I see the note about the IPP license
From what I have
Sorry again Al but you are way off on this one also.
sipro licenses digium who licenses end users for the digium product they
are buying. It's like saying if I buy an ATA with 2 g.729 licenses can I
throw it away and use the licenses with my open source codec? No way!
Al Bochter wrote:
Mike
Al Bochter wrote:
Mike
I understand that.
but it states on there site and note the key words may need
What I want to know is if you buy 10 licenses from digum can use the
Open Souce code?
That is not what you said or asked. You were asserting that a free as
in beer solution existed. If
] wrote:
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew
Rubenstein
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:56
To: Paul
Cc: Asterisk-Users
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
All of which hassle and expense can be avoided by buying a
license for
Digium's
G.729 is G.729 (assuming same suffixes like B, C, etc.). Audio quality
is exactly the same, or the implementations aren't compatible.
Yes, but depending on the implementation the CPU resources between
two could be quite different. Audio quality could be adversely
affected by inadequate
Mike
What I was looking to do is use the easier to install one and the better
one.
I was asked by a customer about using G729 and I told the customer that
they would have to pay for the G729
licenses. The customer pointed out the open source G729 code and I was
not sure if I could use that.
for those calls?
On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:08 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
?
On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:08 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
asterisk-users
:08 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
On 1/8/07, Al Bochter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree. I only know what I have told by others so I do need this input
I have been told that Digum G729 is a big pain the the butt to get
working with Asterisk
and it is very hard on the CPU
Keep in mind I have never used any Ver. of G 729
I
?
On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:08 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
asterisk
-08 at 04:08 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Message
at 04:08 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Message-ID
Jerry wrote:
I believe (this may have changed) that ANY patented technology can be
used
for free educationally. The idea is that people can study and play with
the technology for no charge. I'm not sure if this means that a
University can use this in their phone system without paying the patent
I knew I was doing the right thing, here is the proof, enjoy when you
read it, and have a good laugh.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Al Bochter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Jan 8, 2007 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(C)UNT (F
Al Bochter wrote:
Matthew
I agree. I only know what I have told by others so I do need this input
I have been told that Digum G729 is a big pain the the butt to get
working with Asterisk
and it is very hard on the CPU
Keep in mind I have never used any Ver. of G 729
So tell me what you
Hi, all
I am a pabx vendor from Singapore. Recently we are going to implement a
failover solution for our customers using heartbeat, the asterisk server
can failover perfectly, however the g729 codec canot work, because it is
binded the mac address, we have bought two set of licenses, can you
Xue Liangliang wrote:
Hi, all
I am a pabx vendor from Singapore. Recently we are going to implement
a failover solution for our customers using heartbeat, the asterisk
server can failover perfectly, however the g729 codec canot work,
because it is binded the mac address, we have bought two
Hi, actutally it is kind of shareing storage, because we use drbd and
vserver technology, the fail over is at vserver level, and vserver is
synced through drbd storage.
Regards,
Liangliang
Leo Ann Boon wrote:
Xue Liangliang wrote:
Hi, all
I am a pabx vendor from Singapore. Recently we
Xue Liangliang wrote:
Hi, actutally it is kind of shareing storage, because we use drbd and
vserver technology, the fail over is at vserver level, and vserver is
synced through drbd storage.
drdb - that's what I suspected. Off the top of my head, the fastest way
is to reactivate using the new
Hi, leo, I will try the following solution that seperate
/usr/lib/asterisk/modules in another patition other than drbd, then
register the licenses on both server. not sure where the license key
acutally lies in?
Regards,
Liangliang
Leo Ann Boon wrote:
Xue Liangliang wrote:
Hi, actutally
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