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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] The Good, Bad and Scam VoIP Providers
"Dovid B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
A PI that does asterisk on the side ?? WTF ??
Do you have a list of busin
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 08:41:19PM -0500, Alex Robar wrote:
> As if we needed more proof that XXX was XX
No, we don't. I have subscribed to this mailing list to take part in
Asterisk-related discssion. I have not subscribed here for Psycology 101
or amature diagnostics.
This thread has s
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> Date: Dec 28, 2006 7:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] The Good, Bad and Scam VoIP Providers
> To: Alex Robar < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> There are small minded then there is you Bent
> Fuck you Your spoof email address is blocked
>
> Ge
ing the owner of TRXTel. Not that we needed proof he wasn't
actually a PI, but in case anyone had any doubts, read the thread.
Alex
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Date: Dec 28, 2006 7:41 PM
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Date: Dec 28, 2006 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] The Good, Bad and Scam VoIP Providers
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There are small minded then there is you Bent
Fuck you Your spoof email address is blocked
Get a life and stop your scams by hiding.. use a rea
I agree, he sent me one off list, too - making all kinds of allegations of
my sexual preferences. I sent him a link to AA, DrPhil, National Institute
of Mental Health and suggested he get some help.
On 12/28/06, Alex Robar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Of course everyone is "allowed" to use VoIP.
Of course everyone is "allowed" to use VoIP... Asterisk is open! I think
Dovid's point was more that this guy's website says he buys and sells
precious metals and other random items, his postings on this list indicate
that he installs PBXes and resells VoIP services, and then his private
e-mails s
"Dovid B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A PI that does asterisk on the side ?? WTF ??
>
Do you have a list of business types that are not allowed to use VoIP?
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>> From: Al Bochter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 14:01:06 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] The Good, Bad and Scam VoIP Providers
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> This is off the list
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A PI that does asterisk on the side ?? WTF ??
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From: "C F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 2:22 PM
Subject: Fwd: [asterisk-users] The Good, Bad and Scam VoIP Providers
I Find It Funny, So I Decided To Let Othe
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006, Al Bochter wrote:
> You guys are missing the point of the message I sent!
Al,
While I don't disagree with some of your points, the fact is that when you
post, often it DOES sound like you're trying to sell, whether you
intentionally are or not.
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Steve Sobol, Professi
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 03:56:19PM -0500, Steve Totaro wrote:
Pulled from Junk Folder
Yes, I filter by your name in the body as I know it will be Junk.
Steve, no matter "who started this", this is obviously of no interest to
this list's subscribers. Public ins
Al Bochter wrote:
Steve
Servers are better!
Your email is now blocked!
Next will be the domain!
And I will contract them about your email
Best regards,
Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
Steve Totaro wrote:
Pulled from Junk Folder
Yes, I filter by yo
On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 03:56:19PM -0500, Steve Totaro wrote:
> Pulled from Junk Folder
>
> Yes, I filter by your name in the body as I know it will be Junk.
Steve, no matter "who started this", this is obviously of no interest to
this list's subscribers. Public insults help noone here.
Plea
Steve
Can you please stop posting messages to the list that don't have
anything to do with VoIP or the subject.
I took the replys to your messages "Off The List" (Thank You.)
Best regards,
Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
Steve Totaro wrote:
Pulled f
Pulled from Junk Folder
Yes, I filter by your name in the body as I know it will be Junk.
Thanks,
Steve
SYSOP wrote:
Did you filtered this one to junk?
Best regards,
Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
Steve Totaro wrote:
Sorry folks, not much traffic
Please stop spamming me troll.
Al Bochter wrote:
Steve,
I don't care is helps pass the time.
When you have dumb shits like you that don't have a clue.
Lets get back on the subject.
Best regards,
Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
Steve Totaro wrote:
Pete
:-)
On 24/12/06, Steve Totaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Peter Bowyer wrote:
> Yeah but it's good sport yanking his chain :-)
>
> On 24/12/06, Steve Totaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What a tool.
>>
>> Al Bochter wrote:
>> > So you would deal with a criminal ?
>> >
>> > Bret McDanel was *Conv
Peter Bowyer wrote:
Yeah but it's good sport yanking his chain :-)
On 24/12/06, Steve Totaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What a tool.
Al Bochter wrote:
> So you would deal with a criminal ?
>
> Bret McDanel was *Convicted Of Cybercrimes
> *
> Best regards,
>
> Al Bochter
> Bochter Services
> ht
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>> From: Al Bochter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 14:01:06 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] The Good, Bad and Scam VoIP Providers
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> This is off the list
>>
>> C F,
>>
>> You ar
getting funnier by the minute. Way to go, Al.
>
> On 24/12/06, C F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I Find It Funny, So I Decided To Let Others Laugh As Well
>>
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>> From: Al Bochter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>&g
What a tool.
Al Bochter wrote:
So you would deal with a criminal ?
Bret McDanel was *Convicted Of Cybercrimes
*
Best regards,
Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
(VoIP PBX) 1-563-773-6610 EXT: 250
Peter Bowyer wrote:
On 23/12/06, Al Bochter <[EMAIL PROTECTED
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>> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 14:01:06 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] The Good, Bad and Scam VoIP Providers
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> This is off the list
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>> C F,
>>
>> You are an ass Bret is a scammer you can take that to the bank
e: [asterisk-users] The Good, Bad and Scam VoIP Providers
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is off the list
C F,
You are an ass Bret is a scammer you can take that to the bank from a
PI. Sorry I never stated what I do for a living. Did I?
I will be dealing with Bret. And 2007 is not going to be a good y
I Find It Funny, So I Decided To Let Others Laugh As Well
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From: Al Bochter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 14:01:06 -0500
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] The Good, Bad and Scam VoIP Providers
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is off the list
C F
Al, Nobody Cares About Your Problems With Bret. Most People Here Know
And Trust Bret More Than They Do You. All You Have Done So Far Is Made
A Fool Out Of Yourself. At This Point All I Can Think Of Is That If
Bret Does Hold Some Of Your Money That It Is A Significant Amount And
He Wont Ever Give I
Peter Bowyer
I understand that.
But from my standing that would be a scam and a rip off
And I do understand that the providers are buying minutes in bulk
When the provider states "unlimited" then the service should be without
bounds
Keep in mind there other things that the VoIP Providers are
On 24/12/06, Al Bochter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So I will try get you on my point of the message!
It would appear to be 'unlimited doesn't mean unlimited'. Surely this
doesn't come as a surprise to someone who has been in the industry as
long as you claim to have been?
Move on, nothing to s
So I will try get you on my point of the message!
So if you get a VoIP Provider that states on there web site that they
will give you unlimited use for $7.95 per month.
You start to use there service and your VoIP service stops working after
20 days and you contract the provider
and the prov
On 12/24/06, Al Bochter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So you would deal with a criminal ?
Bret McDanel was *Convicted Of Cybercrimes*
And did you finish reading wherever you got that information? No, because
it didn't suit your allegations.
Try finishing it: Prosecution voluntarily moved to
If anyone would like to read more or the links
Contract me off the list
And my point about that message was NOT about Bret it was all bad
providers in general
Do should do your homework on who you are giving you credit card info to.
That was my point of "The Good, Bad and Scam VoIP Provid
And it seems likely to me that you'll be sued for libel.
On 12/24/06, Al Bochter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So you would deal with a criminal ?
Bret McDanel was *Convicted Of Cybercrimes
*
Best regards,
Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
(VoIP PBX) 1-563-77
So you would deal with a criminal ?
Bret McDanel was *Convicted Of Cybercrimes
*
Best regards,
Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
(VoIP PBX) 1-563-773-6610 EXT: 250
Peter Bowyer wrote:
On 23/12/06, Al Bochter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We have to put the
On 23/12/06, Al Bochter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We have to put the SCAMMERS like trxtel.com out of business (That don't
pay there users)
You know, I'd deal with a professional like Bret a thousand times
before I considered dealing with a mom-and-pop lemonade stall like
you. And this kind
ecember 23, 2006 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] The Good, Bad and Scam VoIP Providers
You guys are missing the point of the message I sent!
Best regards,
Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
(VoIP PBX) 1-563-773-6610 EXT: 250
Bill Hackensack wrote:
You guys are missing the point of the message I sent!
Best regards,
Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
(VoIP PBX) 1-563-773-6610 EXT: 250
Bill Hackensack wrote:
Geez Al, let it go. We've heard your rants for what seems like years
now (even though it's only
Geez Al, let it go. We've heard your rants for what seems like years now
(even though it's only been weeks). No one cares anymore.
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Steve Totaro,
I will contract you off the list about trxtel that is not my base point
of this.
// Bottom line, you get what you pay for.
I agree.
// Check out a provider, try their customer service, see if there is a
toll free number, call it and see if someone picks up.
You forgot word of
Tzafrir Cohen,
Well if you would have asked I don't aim to sell service to VoIP users.
I BUY VOIP TRUNK SERVICE from VoIP Providers.
I BUY VOIP DEVICES from suppliers
I install Asterisk PBX Servers and point the my customers to VoIP Providers and
Suppliers
So the fact is I don't offer a competi
I seriously doubt trxtel.com scams anyone. I may be wrong but the
person behind it has been with this community for a long time and has
done nothing post insightful and meaningful things to this list and give
back to the community in many other ways as well. It is a unique idea
but that is re
On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 05:30:54PM -0500, Al Bochter wrote:
> Keep in mind list THE VOIP PROVIDERS and VOIP SUPPLIERS NEED US.
> SO the providers and suppliers need to get there acts together.
>
> The BAD and the SCAMMERS are giving VoIP a bad name and pushing OUR NEW
> PBX CUSTOMERS TO VONA
Brian Capouch
I changed the subject I don't think it was right for this message!!
// Re: [asterisk-users] Need quality toll free 800 number over IAX?
Well I don't agree with you about this thread they are talking about the
good and the bad VoIP providers
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