Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-05 Thread Peter Fern
Tilghman Lesher wrote: On Wednesday 03 October 2007 06:09:01 Peter Fern wrote: Of course, I could be missing something obvious, please correct me if that's the case. I invite you to try it. You could make a lot of really smart people look like fools if you're able to mix

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-03 Thread Mark Quitoriano
On 10/3/07, Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 02 October 2007 16:55:52 Brian West wrote: On Oct 2, 2007, at 4:42 PM, Mark Quitoriano wrote: anyway still if there's a hack for meetme to work with g729 codec this won't be an issue. So is there a hack or patch that i can

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-03 Thread Peer Oliver Schmidt
Mark, Or, in other words, you cannot mix compressed data. You must first decompress the data for mixing, then recompress it for transmission. yeah i still don't understand. this is what i want to do. I want asterisk not to compress and decompress codecs. so either i can use SLIN as my

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-03 Thread Tony Mountifield
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark Quitoriano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah i still don't understand. this is what i want to do. I want asterisk not to compress and decompress codecs. so either i can use SLIN as my codec for my SIP or IAX. or i can remove SLIN codec in meetme and change it

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-03 Thread Peter Fern
Tilghman Lesher wrote: Or, in other words, you cannot mix compressed data. You must first decompress the data for mixing, then recompress it for transmission. During both operations, there is a potential for signal degradation. Ummm, why?? Unless you can explain some technical reason

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-03 Thread Philipp Kempgen
Peter Fern wrote: Tilghman Lesher wrote: Or, in other words, you cannot mix compressed data. You must first decompress the data for mixing, then recompress it for transmission. During both operations, there is a potential for signal degradation. Ummm, why?? Unless you can explain

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-03 Thread Tim Panton
On 3 Oct 2007, at 10:16, Mark Quitoriano wrote: On 10/3/07, Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 02 October 2007 16:55:52 Brian West wrote: On Oct 2, 2007, at 4:42 PM, Mark Quitoriano wrote: anyway still if there's a hack for meetme to work with g729 codec this won't

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-03 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Wednesday 03 October 2007 06:09:01 Peter Fern wrote: Tilghman Lesher wrote: Or, in other words, you cannot mix compressed data. You must first decompress the data for mixing, then recompress it for transmission. During both operations, there is a potential for signal degradation.

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-03 Thread Wai Wu
this better contribute to better use of G729 licenses. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Fern Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:09 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] meetme

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-03 Thread Wai Wu
But his preference of G729 is to save bandwidth. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Panton Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 8:16 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] meetme

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-03 Thread Steve Totaro
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Panton Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 8:16 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729? Not exactly. Here are the facts: meetme mixes in SLIN

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-03 Thread Michael Graves
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 08:35:06 -0500, Tilghman Lesher wrote: I invite you to try it. You could make a lot of really smart people look like fools if you're able to mix compressed audio together without decompressing, or you might make yourself look like a fool, because you get back garbage for

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-02 Thread Mark Quitoriano
On 10/2/07, Brian West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok Let me chime in on this one. If you can use ulaw/alaw because you'll end up with tandem encoding which will make the conference sound worse to some people. All audio coming in will get transcoded to signed linear and pushed down into zaptel

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-02 Thread Brian West
You still do not understand. It doesn't matter if the call coming in is g729 you must transcode it to signed linear, mix the frames and then code it back into g729 you end up with quality loss doing that. /b On Oct 2, 2007, at 4:42 PM, Mark Quitoriano wrote: anyway still if there's a

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-02 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 16:55:52 Brian West wrote: On Oct 2, 2007, at 4:42 PM, Mark Quitoriano wrote: anyway still if there's a hack for meetme to work with g729 codec this won't be an issue. So is there a hack or patch that i can use any codec for meetme? tnx You still do not

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-02 Thread Brian West
Thanks for making it clearer :) My mind is mush today! /b On Oct 2, 2007, at 5:39 PM, Tilghman Lesher wrote: Or, in other words, you cannot mix compressed data. You must first decompress the data for mixing, then recompress it for transmission. During both operations, there is a potential

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-01 Thread Mojo with Horan Company, LLC
In my experience, and theoretically by design, it doesn't matter what codec you are using when you call a meetme conference. Moj Mark Quitoriano wrote: Hi, is there a way to use g729 in meetme? Thanks!

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-01 Thread Mark Quitoriano
but is there a way to use g729 codec in meetme? On 10/2/07, Mojo with Horan Company, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my experience, and theoretically by design, it doesn't matter what codec you are using when you call a meetme conference. Moj

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-01 Thread Brian West
Ok Let me chime in on this one. If you can use ulaw/alaw because you'll end up with tandem encoding which will make the conference sound worse to some people. All audio coming in will get transcoded to signed linear and pushed down into zaptel then back up and out to the conference

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-01 Thread Paul Hales
As long as you have some g729 codecs installed, Asterisk will do this fine. PaulH On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 07:37 +0800, Mark Quitoriano wrote: but is there a way to use g729 codec in meetme? On 10/2/07, Mojo with Horan Company, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my experience, and

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-01 Thread GNUbie
Hello Mark, On 10/2/07, Mark Quitoriano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but is there a way to use g729 codec in meetme? You have to buy a G.729 license for each channel which I believe is at USD 10.00 if I'm not mistaken. Then, make sure that your machine is fast enough for transcoding. But the

Re: [asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-10-01 Thread Paul Hales
Since the channels have to be mixed together by Asterisk, passthrough can't be supported in this case. In other circumstances, passthru works fine. PaulH On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 10:02 +0800, GNUbie wrote: Hello Mark, On 10/2/07, Mark Quitoriano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but is there

[asterisk-users] meetme conference using g729?

2007-09-28 Thread Mark Quitoriano
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