Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-22 Thread Rich Adamson
> I have a question regarding the Asterisk Packet Time for SIP Calls. It is > hardcoded at 20ms but when I do an RTP Analysis on a stream it is clear that > these packets are not spaced out at 20ms. In general you see something like: > > Packet 50 - Delay 50ms > Packet 51 - Delay 5ms > Packet

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-22 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
> > Packet 50 - Delay 50ms > > Packet 51 - Delay 5ms > > Packet 52 - Delay 5ms > > Packet 53 - Delay 50ms > > Packet 54 - Delay 5ms > > Packet 55 - Delay 5ms > The 20 ms is not the inter-packet timing, its the relative content of > what's within the packet. In other words, the packet contains 20ms

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-22 Thread Sean Cheesman
ew Kohlsmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms) > > Packet 50 - Delay 50ms > > Packet 51 - Delay 5ms > > Packet 52 - Delay 5ms > > Packet 53 - Delay 50ms >

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-22 Thread Rich Adamson
> > > Packet 50 - Delay 50ms > > > Packet 51 - Delay 5ms > > > Packet 52 - Delay 5ms > > > Packet 53 - Delay 50ms > > > Packet 54 - Delay 5ms > > > Packet 55 - Delay 5ms > > > The 20 ms is not the inter-packet timing, its the relative content of > > what's within the packet. In other words, the pa

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-22 Thread Andres
On Monday 22 December 2003 15:36, Rich Adamson wrote: > > I have a question regarding the Asterisk Packet Time for SIP Calls. It > > is hardcoded at 20ms but when I do an RTP Analysis on a stream it is > > clear that these packets are not spaced out at 20ms. In general you see > > something like:

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-22 Thread Andres
On Monday 22 December 2003 15:55, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: > > > Packet 50 - Delay 50ms > > > Packet 51 - Delay 5ms > > > Packet 52 - Delay 5ms > > > Packet 53 - Delay 50ms > > > Packet 54 - Delay 5ms > > > Packet 55 - Delay 5ms > > > > The 20 ms is not the inter-packet timing, its the relative cont

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-22 Thread Andres
On Monday 22 December 2003 16:37, Andres wrote: > On Monday 22 December 2003 15:36, Rich Adamson wrote: > > > I have a question regarding the Asterisk Packet Time for SIP Calls. It > > > is hardcoded at 20ms but when I do an RTP Analysis on a stream it is > > > clear that these packets are not spa

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-22 Thread Rich Adamson
> On Monday 22 December 2003 16:37, Andres wrote: > > On Monday 22 December 2003 15:36, Rich Adamson wrote: > > > > I have a question regarding the Asterisk Packet Time for SIP Calls. It > > > > is hardcoded at 20ms but when I do an RTP Analysis on a stream it is > > > > clear that these packets a

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-22 Thread Andres
On Monday 22 December 2003 19:58, Rich Adamson wrote: > > On Monday 22 December 2003 16:37, Andres wrote: > > > On Monday 22 December 2003 15:36, Rich Adamson wrote: > > > > > I have a question regarding the Asterisk Packet Time for SIP Calls. > > > > > It is hardcoded at 20ms but when I do an RTP

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-23 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Rich Adamson wrote: I have a question regarding the Asterisk Packet Time for SIP Calls. It is hardcoded at 20ms but when I do an RTP Analysis on a stream it is clear that these packets are not spaced out at 20ms. In general you see something like: Packet 50 - Delay 50ms Packet 51 - Delay 5ms P

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-23 Thread Rich Adamson
> >>Packet 50 - Delay 50ms > >>Packet 51 - Delay 5ms > >>Packet 52 - Delay 5ms > >>Packet 53 - Delay 50ms > >>Packet 54 - Delay 5ms > >>Packet 55 - Delay 5ms > >> > >>Is there anyway to space them out evenly at 20ms?? > > > > > > The 20 ms is not the inter-packet timing, its the relative content

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-23 Thread Clif Jones
Interesting. For the record, the MultiTech MVP-130 comes with a default setting of 60ms packets on all of its supported codecs. I changed the packet sizes to 20ms because I had never heard of anyone using such large sample sizes. Andres wrote: On Monday 22 December 2003 19:58, Rich Adamson wr

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-23 Thread Clif Jones
Olle, Here is an interesting site that goes into some of the troubleshooting techniques in Voip: http://www.voiptroubleshooter.com/ Maybe it will help your FAQ! Olle E. Johansson wrote: Rich Adamson wrote: I have a question regarding the Asterisk Packet Time for SIP Calls. It is hardcoded at

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-23 Thread Joel Maslak
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Rich Adamson wrote: > If a collision or dropped packet occurs (in a voip udp environment) there > is no way to retransmit the missing/damaged packet. Missing one packet isn't > a big deal, but if you have collisions and/or dropped packets, there is a > very high probability th

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-23 Thread Sean Cheesman
notice it! -Original Message- From: Joel Maslak To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/23/2003 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms) On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Rich Adamson wrote: > If a collision or dropped packet occurs (in a voip udp environment) there &

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-23 Thread Rich Adamson
I'm not sure under what circumstances (from an overall performance perspective) 20ms is better then 60ms, or the reverse. Gut feeling would suggest choosing the size is roughly equivalent to MTU size. The 60ms setting should result in larger packets which might be okay for high speed uncongested l

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-23 Thread Rich Adamson
application cannot get reassembled in a timely manner, you'll surely notice > it! > > -Original Message- > From: Joel Maslak > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12/23/2003 10:41 AM > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms) > > On Tue, 23

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-23 Thread Andres
On Tuesday 23 December 2003 10:59, Rich Adamson wrote: > I'm not sure under what circumstances (from an overall performance > perspective) 20ms is better then 60ms, or the reverse. Gut feeling would In our network we set UAs to use 60ms (using G729). Actual data measurements indicate a call consu

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-23 Thread Andres
en a voice > > application cannot get reassembled in a timely manner, you'll surely > > notice it! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Joel Maslak > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 12/23/2003 10:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users]

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-23 Thread Chris Albertson
semble it in a timely manner. It's > not a > > > big deal with a web page or something along that lines. But when > a voice > > > application cannot get reassembled in a timely manner, you'll > surely > > > notice it! > > > > > > -Original Me

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk SIP Packet Time (20ms)

2003-12-23 Thread Rich Adamson
> > > > application cannot get reassembled in a timely manner, you'll > > surely > > > > notice it! > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Joel Maslak > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > &g