Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-05 Thread d hinton
] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe d hinton wrote: Also, digium if i was you i'd destroy all evidence that i sold these cards before your cert date, as they could fine you up to $250 per day (about $100 Grand per year), from the first

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-05 Thread Brian Capouch
d hinton wrote: to tilghman: Then contribute already. Don't troll the list you bozoo, before you call someone a troll you should prob read the post. and if that's you opinion arfter that then fine, so be it. but it's always some punk, who got bullied on as a kid that hides behind the internet and

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-05 Thread d hinton
who said i was selling to the public??? read people. again i never said i was going to sell, but rather that it could be done for less - Original Message - From: Brian Capouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-05 Thread wasim
mr hinton: on behalf of the entire * community, i'd like to thank you for this sudden (and rather rash, imho) interest in the zaptel hardware... most of us are aware that it could be possibly be done cheaper, but we're really not pushed about it, if it helps digium support/improve * well, and a

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-05 Thread Gregg Lebovitz
but, yes we are to far into the making our own process, sorry. dwayne - Original Message - From: Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe On Saturday 05 April 2003 12

RE: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-05 Thread Michiel Betel
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregg Lebovitz Sent: zondag 6 april 2003 0:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe dwayne, I didn't interpret Tilgman's email as instigating this kind of response. You may be smart, but I really don't buy any of your

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-05 Thread John Vozza
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe d hinton wrote: to tilghman: Then contribute already. Don't troll the list you bozoo, before you call someone a troll you should prob read the post

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-05 Thread T Aksoy
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregg Lebovitz Sent: zondag 6 april 2003 0:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe dwayne, I didn't interpret Tilgman's email as instigating this kind of response. You may be smart, but I

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-04 Thread David Stubbs
we are what you would call a small company dwayne, we have less that 20 extentions in use but.. Asterisk is working quite well for us, and it beat EVERYTHING we could find in the market for COST! and functionality. in fact it came in under £3,000 less!. ( and the was with no voice mail queues . .

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-04 Thread d hinton
: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe we are what you would call a small company dwayne, we have less that 20 extentions in use but.. Asterisk is working quite well for us, and it beat EVERYTHING we could find in the market for COST! and functionality. in fact it came in under £3,000 less

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-04 Thread Steve Underwood
d hinton wrote: Also, digium if i was you i'd destroy all evidence that i sold these cards before your cert date, as they could fine you up to $250 per day (about $100 Grand per year), from the first date they can prove you sold them. that would kill most budgets. My understanding is that CC

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread d hinton
sends us the prototype. the total led time we got back was 3-6 weeks. dwayne - Original Message - From: Michiel Betel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:18 AM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe I called

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread Klaus-Peter Junghanns
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:18 AM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe I called around and got some rough quotes for RTTE testing and certification for europe. It seems to boil down to euro 2400

RE: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread Michiel Betel
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Klaus-Peter Junghanns Sent: donderdag 3 april 2003 17:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe Hi d hintion, hmmm...getting approvals for europe isnt that easy. because you get the approval

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread d hinton
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe Hi d hintion, hmmm...getting approvals for europe isnt that easy. because you get the approval for a combination of hardware and driver software, so when you change

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread Mark Spencer
1. it was FCC, CA and CE certified (FCC and CA states no card is reg with them as of last week) We do have FCC part 68 certification on both the T100P and T400P. When I get back I can look to find the numbers if you wish. I do not like your accusation that we are lying about our

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread Steve Underwood
Michiel Betel wrote: Thats what I specifically asked... Should the whole system be approved (eg. Computer, cards, software) or just the components. The answer I got back from two agencies was that hardware approval under RTTE should be sufficient. Same as ISDN BRI card manufacturers do... There

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread d hinton
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe 1. it was FCC, CA and CE certified (FCC and CA states no card is reg with them as of last week) We do have FCC part 68 certification on both the T100P and T400P. When I get back I can

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 10:55, Mark Spencer wrote: 1. it was FCC, CA and CE certified (FCC and CA states no card is reg with them as of last week) We do have FCC part 68 certification on both the T100P and T400P. When I get back I can look to find the numbers if you wish. I do not like

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread Steve Underwood
Unless things have simplified since I was last involved in European approvals (which is quite a long time) things are worse than that. If your factory has not previously produced approved telecoms products, you probably need to pay for a factory inspection; each new protocol you want to

RE: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread Michiel Betel
is invoked by Annex II. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Underwood Sent: donderdag 3 april 2003 18:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe Unless things have simplified since I was last involved

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread d hinton
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 10:55, Mark Spencer wrote: 1. it was FCC, CA and CE certified (FCC and CA states no card is reg with them as of last week) For the T100P and T400P: http

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 13:37, d hinton wrote: ok, that's what i've been asking all along. for cert numbers for FCC. as for cert process. it's easier then many folks have stated. in most places a mere statement of conformity by manufacturer will do (cost in US is ~$900) however testing is still

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread d hinton
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 13:37, d hinton wrote: ok, that's what i've been asking all along. for cert numbers for FCC. as for cert process. it's easier then many folks have stated. in most

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 15:32, d hinton wrote: first off the majority of work on the cards was made by zapata guys, let's give them the credit. secondly are you talking about hardward support or asterisk software support? I may be a little off, but I'm pretty sure the original was a ISA card and

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread Mathew Frank
possibly a little more priority when asking questions to Mark in an online forum. His help has been invaluable for diagnosing problems and pointing towards better solutions. Then you can add in the fact that Mark can continue for that mutch longer doing asterisk development as his job. That

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread d hinton
the people who helped do the work. dwayne - Original Message - From: Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 15:32, d hinton wrote: first off the majority

RE: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread Gene Kochanowsky
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe FIRST LET ME STATE AGAIN I'M NOT A TROLL! my small company would like to support the asterisk effort, but can't or won't pay a $800 markup. now, please go to the http

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread Steve Underwood
d hinton wrote: FIRST LET ME STATE AGAIN I'M NOT A TROLL! my small company would like to support the asterisk effort, but can't or won't pay a $800 markup. now, please go to the http://zapatatelephony.org/ website and do some reading! the pci card was their last card released, BY THEM not digium,

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread Mark Spencer
We don't have stickers for the part 68 on the T100P yet because we haven't done part 15 or UL on it yet. Mark On 3 Apr 2003, Steven Critchfield wrote: On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 10:55, Mark Spencer wrote: 1. it was FCC, CA and CE certified (FCC and CA states no card is reg with them as of

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-03 Thread Mark Spencer
first off the majority of work on the cards was made by zapata guys, let's give them the credit. secondly are you talking about hardward support or asterisk software support? Wrong. The Tormenta2 was truly a joint venture between us. Digium *totally* funded its development, *and* I

Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

2003-04-01 Thread Klaus-Peter Junghanns
Hi Vlasis, CE is no certification, it is just a decleration of conformity from the manufacturer. It has nothing to do with getting an ITU / ETSI (whatever...) approval for communication equipment. regards kapejod -- Klaus-Peter Junghanns CEO,CTO Junghanns.NET GmbH Breite Strasse 13 - 12167