On 6 Nov 2003, at 04:32, Tilghman Lesher wrote:
OK, let me get this straight. Because the Asterisk voicemail menu is
fault tolerant and lets you undo a delete, it's therefore unacceptable.
I don't think the OP said it was unacceptable, just that it wasn't as
configurable as they would like and
Steve Underwood wrote:
And is not based on any standards!
100% of all voicemail systems are not based on standards. There *are* no
standards for voicemail. There aren't even many common practices. The
From the SER admin's manual:
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5.3. Voicemail
5.3.1. Introduction
The voicemail system
Steve Underwood wrote:
96% uptime would mean nearly 4 hours per month down. I have never
experiemced anything that bad using the nastiest crappiest no-name
server parts. unless you want to make a point, like some authors
do. Then you say the hard disk failed and it took a week to get and
And before you accuse me of being unable to handle
moderately complex systems as well. The point the
OP was making is that it's not *configurable* not
that it's too hard. If I choose to have a simpler
system - or more importantly choose for all the
users at an installation to have a simpler
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 20:41, Peter Brown wrote:
Gavin,
So you want a few reasons why you shouldn't use asterisk,
I can think of some:
Don't want to use a reliable operating system (linux)
[...]
Is this sufficient Gavin?
grin
Nice one - I'm already a strong Open-Source pedant, and our
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 20:47, Steven Critchfield wrote:
On a PSTN connection though, you get the problem of physical interfaces.
Yes, I have often wondered about this - if we have a single RJ45
connector from the PRI to the Digium Wildcard, how can we deal with the
failure of the main * box
Hi!
Yeah, there was talk a while back about the whole user interface thing for
Comedian Mail and especially how it works compared to other systems, what
could be done to make migration easier for the users etc. There were some
good threads, check the archives, but chances are not much has
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On Wednesday 05 November 2003 18:41, Ariel Batista wrote:
and the biggest one I feel is a major problem!
5) Voicemail can not be configured unless you re program it
yourself. And is not
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 09:08, Gavin Hamill wrote:
It would seem an odd question, but I'm trying to put together a little
presentation on 'Why Asterisk?' and need to list Pros and Cons I've
got plenty of Pros (including the availability of commercial support),
but the only Con I can think of
Gavin Hamill wrote:
It would seem an odd question, but I'm trying to put together a little
presentation on 'Why Asterisk?' and need to list Pros and Cons I've
got plenty of Pros (including the availability of commercial support),
but the only Con I can think of is 'Relatively few
Gavin Hamill wrote:
It would seem an odd question, but I'm trying to put together a little
presentation on 'Why Asterisk?' and need to list Pros and Cons I've
got plenty of Pros (including the availability of commercial support),
but the only Con I can think of is 'Relatively few
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 15:31, Steven Critchfield wrote:
the only Con I can think of is 'Relatively few installations
worldwide'
Your listed con is only a con if you have to point to others failures to
cover your own. It is lemming thinking.
Hm, it's only a con because I can't think of
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 09:36, WipeOut wrote:
Gavin Hamill wrote:
It would seem an odd question, but I'm trying to put together a little
presentation on 'Why Asterisk?' and need to list Pros and Cons I've
got plenty of Pros (including the availability of commercial support),
but the only
One of the biggest cons is the lack of friendly interface for
configuration. However, most PBXs in use don't have one either, unless
they are about 5 years old or newer, in which case it probably wouldn't
be on the chopping block.
I still think the pros outweigh the cons, or else I wouldn't be
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 16:02, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
Cons:
* Not a full SIP proxy
Fortunately this is not relevant to our environment :)
* No release handling
Good point, I've added that to the list..
* Limited hardware support
The software is pretty well tied to Digium hardware for
--- Gavin Hamill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would seem an odd question, but I'm trying to put together a
little
presentation on 'Why Asterisk?' and need to list Pros and Cons
I've
got plenty of Pros (including the availability of commercial
support),
but the only Con I can think of is
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 10:16, Gavin Hamill wrote:
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 15:31, Steven Critchfield wrote:
the only Con I can think of is 'Relatively few installations
worldwide'
Your listed con is only a con if you have to point to others failures to
cover your own. It is lemming
Yes, I agree. Your typical PC might have only 96% uptime
but you could still build a __system__ with five nines of
uptime using PC hardware.
You eed to do two things. 1) Use better quality PC hardware
that employs some internal redundancy, like mirrored drives and
multiple load sharing power
i m a newbie with * so in all likelihood my question will sound stupid
to you but aren't there HA support for linux already?
as to the pstn interfaces, i thought most traditional PBX uses redundant
equipment to provide HA;
can't we do the same with * being the switch?
WipeOut wrote:
Gavin
Steven Critchfield wrote:
I think the number you cited needs qualification to be accurate. Because
if it where accurate as it stands, I'm due for major downtime in my rack
as I have several systems approaching 2 years uptime without a single
hardware failure. These machines also where not new
Can anyone think of any others?
mmh... some idea here
* experienced linux user for production use
(able to di compilation, knows how the shell works,
able to debug code kernel probs, blah blah blah)
* interoperating with other telco (even only lines...)
needs some background in telecom
This company seems to think pros outweigh the cons for Asterisk:
www.voicepulse.com
/. reported today that VoicePulse uses a variation of Asterisk to run
their Broadband Phone Service.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/11/05/1319251mode=threadtid=126
Steven Critchfield wrote:
On Wed,
Can anyone think of any others?
Here is the short list I have!
1) Lack of graphical interface.
2) Un-freindly user interface (Command prompt only)
3) Network and Telephony person needed at site.
4) No standard SIP Phone nor IAX phone available.
and the biggest one I feel is a major problem!
Gavin,
So you want a few reasons why you shouldn't use asterisk,
I can think of some:
Don't want to use a reliable operating system (linux)
Don't have the expertise to use the best operating system that is initially
a very low cost to acquire
You can decide when to upgrade, not being forced to
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 11:55, hkirrc.patrick wrote:
i m a newbie with * so in all likelihood my question will sound stupid
to you but aren't there HA support for linux already?
as to the pstn interfaces, i thought most traditional PBX uses redundant
equipment to provide HA;
can't we do the
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 12:42, Brancaleoni Matteo wrote:
Can anyone think of any others?
mmh... some idea here
* experienced linux user for production use
(able to di compilation, knows how the shell works,
able to debug code kernel probs, blah blah blah)
* interoperating with other
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On Wednesday 05 November 2003 14:40, Ariel Batista wrote:
Can anyone think of any others
WipeOut wrote:
Gavin Hamill wrote:
It would seem an odd question, but I'm trying to put together a little
presentation on 'Why Asterisk?' and need to list Pros and Cons I've
got plenty of Pros (including the availability of commercial support),
but the only Con I can think of is 'Relatively
Ariel Batista wrote:
Can anyone think of any others?
Here is the short list I have!
1) Lack of graphical interface.
2) Un-freindly user interface (Command prompt only)
3) Network and Telephony person needed at site.
4) No standard SIP Phone nor IAX phone available.
and the biggest one I
On Wednesday 05 November 2003 16:39, Shoval Tom wrote:
As far as I can gather, the voicemailmain program is not
configurable. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Configurable? It's very configurable. You can customize your name,
unavailable message, and busy message and change your password all
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