Indeed, I'm thinking of using 2 CompactFlash ATA disks. One fully
read
only with just a small partition writable that will keep
/etc/asterisk
(astlinux mounts read-only always and only mounts read-write if you
need
to change/save the config). No worries about unclean shutdown.
The second disk I wil
Can you please take the 30 seconds or less that is required to properly trim
your responses? It makes reading these threads easier for everyone -- all
8000+ list subscribers.
On January 26, 2005 08:40 pm, Chris Albertson wrote:
> It you truely want "5 nines" you have to set things up so that yo
--- Remco Barende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Michael 'Moose' Dinn wrote:
>
> >> If you need a rocksolid solution have a look at astlinux that can
> boot *
> >> from a compact flash card in read only mode which makes it very
> hard to
> >> break :)
> >>
> >
> > You should b
Remco Barende wrote:
It's probably possible to do it with another distro too but astlinux is
already pretty much finished :) And the cost of 512 Mb or 1 GB ATA flash
is not much more than a McDonalds meal anyways (1GB is about USD 100 now)
Damn! McDonalds is expensive where you live! (Or you
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Michael 'Moose' Dinn wrote:
If you need a rocksolid solution have a look at astlinux that can boot *
from a compact flash card in read only mode which makes it very hard to
break :)
You should be able to boot Asterisk using slackware as a base from a 64M CF
card or even from a
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael 'Moose' Dinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> You should be able to boot Asterisk using slackware as a base
> from a 64M CF
> card or even from a 64M bootable USB memory key. If you use
> ReiserFS or
> something similar for the drive that stores all your
> If you need a rocksolid solution have a look at astlinux that can boot *
> from a compact flash card in read only mode which makes it very hard to
> break :)
>
You should be able to boot Asterisk using slackware as a base from a 64M CF
card or even from a 64M bootable USB memory key. If you u
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Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 10:52 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS for Asterisk
David Brodbeck wrote:
It comes back up on its own, of course.
If it just works, you have something asterisk without UPS can't give
yo
- Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS for Asterisk
David Brodbeck wrote:
>
>
> It comes back up on its own, of course.
>
>
>>If it just works, you have something asterisk without UPS can't give
>>you.
>
>
> Really? Surely Asterisk
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Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 9:55 PM
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> -Original Message-
> From: Shoval Tomer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> That's not a problem.
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, David Brodbeck wrote:
> > From: Peter Svensson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > The SmartUPS ups's from APC that are >= 1kVA seem to be of a
> > lot better
> > quality then their smaller siblings. We have lost none of the 1kVA or
> > larger ups:es while several of the smaller
David Brodbeck wrote:
It comes back up on its own, of course.
If it just works, you have something asterisk without UPS can't give
you.
Really? Surely Asterisk can be configured to start itself up when the
system boots.
Absolutely.
Where did the notion ever come from that it could not?
B.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Shoval Tomer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> That's not a problem.
> The question is what happens when the power's restored.
>
> Can you go ahead and just start working or do you need to call the
> technicians to come reconfigure the whole thing?
It comes back up
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From: David Brodbeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:50 PM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] UPS for Asterisk
> -Original Message-
> From: Shoval Tomer [mailto:[EMAIL
> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Svensson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The SmartUPS ups's from APC that are >= 1kVA seem to be of a
> lot better
> quality then their smaller siblings. We have lost none of the 1kVA or
> larger ups:es while several of the smaller ones have died of
> ele
The usual setup for a computer is hosting a critical functions is
to use a server that has two (or more) power supplies with an
A/C power cord comming from each. You then connect each cord
to it's own UPS. I typical small PC server would have two
internal power suppies and two UPSes.
With this
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, steve szmidt wrote:
> The days of shoddy UPS's are long gone, unless you always buy the cheapest
> stuff you can find all the time. In which case you might be able to find
> something crappy. APC gives good support and make decent UPS's at a decent
> price.
The SmartUPS up
> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Radon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I've had good luck with CyberPower, what was your issue?
I had two of them. The first one, after about a year, would just randomly
switch off or glitch, causing the computer connected to it to reboot.
The second one last
steve szmidt wrote:
On Monday 24 January 2005 12:12, Steve Prior wrote:
One word of caution in case you have X10 equipment. I recently found out
the hard way that some of APC's newest UPS models will cause interference
with X10 signals going over the powerline. I'm not talking about the X10
signa
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 1:49 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS for Asterisk
>
>
> Steve Prior wrote:
> > One word of caution in case you have X10 equipment. I
> recently found
> > out the ha
Andrew Thompson wrote:
Steve Prior wrote:
I have an X10 dimmer switch in my bedroom. Initially, it operated fine,
no troulbe to speak of. Then, "all of a sudden", it started randomly
turning on the main room light in the middle of the night.
I didn't notice this for a while, mainly because it do
I've had good luck with CyberPower, what was your issue? Not having
hot swap batteries kinda sucks, but besides that I don't have any
issues. CyberPower has also been very good to me. A couple times
batteries went dead just out of warranty and they sent me fresh ones
no questions asked.
On Mon,
Steve Prior wrote:
One word of caution in case you have X10 equipment. I recently found out
the hard way that some of APC's newest UPS models will cause interference
with X10 signals going over the powerline. I'm not talking about the X10
signal not going through the UPC - that would be expected.
On Monday 24 January 2005 12:12, Steve Prior wrote:
> One word of caution in case you have X10 equipment. I recently found out
> the hard way that some of APC's newest UPS models will cause interference
> with X10 signals going over the powerline. I'm not talking about the X10
> signal not going
on behalf of David Brodbeck
Sent: Mon 1/24/2005 9:49 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] UPS for Asterisk
> -Original Message-
> From: Shoval Tomer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On the other hand, telephony do
One word of caution in case you have X10 equipment. I recently found out
the hard way that some of APC's newest UPS models will cause interference
with X10 signals going over the powerline. I'm not talking about the X10
signal not going through the UPC - that would be expected. I'm saying that
i
On Monday 24 January 2005 02:52, Peter Svensson wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> > Why would the heads come in contact with the platters on a powerfail?
> > The arms are very rigid -- the heads only float a few thousandths of an
> > inch
Well, I'm sorry but I find this who
> Why would the heads come in contact with the platters on a
> powerfail? The
> arms are very rigid -- the heads only float a few thousandths
> of an inch over
> the platters -- something that I don't believe has anything
> to do with the
> platters spinning (that may *help* but I don't thi
> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Radon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Why risk it? Just go snag a cheap UPS from your local store. Just
> get something with enough run time to shut the system down gracefully.
Don't go *too* cheap, though. I had a couple of really cheap (under $40)
CyberPo
> -Original Message-
> From: Shoval Tomer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On the other hand, telephony down time is unacceptable. PBXs have a
> counter part. Plain old PBXs are expected to run 24x7. real 24x7, with
> uptimes of 99.999. And if you think about it, they actually do.
That would b
u/architect/sdi/0,39024602,20269582,00.htm)
And still, my knees are shaking.
In short, GET 100$ and BUY A UPS. It's worth it.
-Original Message-
From: Nick Bachmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:30 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> Why would the heads come in contact with the platters on a powerfail? The
> arms are very rigid -- the heads only float a few thousandths of an inch over
> the platters -- something that I don't believe has anything to do with the
> platters spinn
On 24/01/2005, at 3:26 PM, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
On January 23, 2005 10:30 pm, Nick Bachmann wrote:
HDDs don't fail because they lose power.
Unless the heads crash, which can happen if power fails. I know HDD
manufacturers have done "head unloading" and such recently, but the
risk
is still high
On January 23, 2005 10:30 pm, Nick Bachmann wrote:
> > HDDs don't fail because they lose power.
> Unless the heads crash, which can happen if power fails. I know HDD
> manufacturers have done "head unloading" and such recently, but the risk
> is still higher if power is suddenly lost during a writ
> And, in fact, some drives *do* have problems with sudden outages. Some
Relative to the cost of a cheap UPS, downtime is much much much more
expensive. You can power pretty much any single server you want for ~$150 CDN,
and shut it down cleanly when the power goes out. Compare $150 with the cos
On Jan 23, 2005, at 7:30 PM, Nick Bachmann wrote:
> As I understand, if HD activity is minimal, the probability of HD
> failure is significantly reduced.
HDDs don't fail because they lose power.
Unless the heads crash, which can happen if power fails. I know HDD
manufacturers have done "head unlo
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
On January 23, 2005 04:04 pm, Mike Sander wrote:
> Is the harddisk activity on a standard asterisk install such that I
> don't really have to worry if the power cuts??
Not typically; there isn't much writing going on, this is true. Are
you that cash strapped that a $75 UP
On January 23, 2005 04:04 pm, Mike Sander wrote:
> Is the harddisk activity on a standard asterisk install such that I don't
> really have to worry if the power cuts??
Not typically; there isn't much writing going on, this is true. Are you that
cash strapped that a $75 UPS with a serial port is
Why risk it? Just go snag a cheap UPS from your local store. Just
get something with enough run time to shut the system down gracefully.
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 08:04:36 +1100, Mike Sander
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd considering an UPS backup system for my Asterisk server. I understand
> this
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