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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Ferrell
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 1:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] g.729 - licenses and opinions
Joe,
In this case the patent is on a set on mathamatical algorithms
I know the concept will be hard to understand
for some. Don't flame, just understand the other side.
Joe
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walt Reed
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 4:32 PM
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As someone who has working in speech coding I'd say this is complete
nonsense. The mass of patents on speech coding was a land grab, and
nothing more. Much of the really clever stuff in speech coding is
unencumbered, and always was. In general it is a mass of dumb stuff
that you unfortunately
> Patents are a trade. The holder of the IP opens it up for public
> scrutiny and in return for exclusive control. Otherwise, companies would
> (and often do) keep the IP a trade secret.
Is that not exactly what I said?
AK >He was given those patents as in incentive to invent something that he
AK
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] g.729 - licenses and opinions
On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 02:58:47PM -0500, Steven Critchfield said:
On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 14:45, Kevin Walsh wrote:
Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So while I think it is important, I
also can't seem
Steven Critchfield wrote:
On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 12:07, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
17 years for software patents is FAR too long, IMO, but that's an entirely
different story. IMO software patents shoudln't be for more than ~24 months
since the industry moves so blazingly fast.
I'm of mix
and
for some. Don't flame, just understand the other side.
Joe
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walt Reed
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 4:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] g.729 - licenses and opinions
On T
On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 02:58:47PM -0500, Steven Critchfield said:
> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 14:45, Kevin Walsh wrote:
> > Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > So while I think it is important, I
> > > also can't seem to draw a reasonable line. 24 months in most software
> > > isn't enou
BZZZT! Wrong too.
Patents are a trade. The holder of the IP opens it up for public
scrutiny and in return for exclusive control. Otherwise, companies would
(and often do) keep the IP a trade secret.
-brian
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
Just remember that you were given those patents as incentive t
On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 14:45, Kevin Walsh wrote:
> Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > So while I think it is important, I
> > also can't seem to draw a reasonable line. 24 months in most software
> > isn't enough time from day 0 to make any reward for the work, at least
> > not monetari
Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 17 years for software patents is FAR too long, IMO, but that's an
> > entirely different story. IMO software patents shoudln't be for more
> > than ~24 months since the industry moves so blazingly fast.
> >
> I'm of mixed feelings here. I don't like
sday, May 13, 2004 12:07 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] g.729 - licenses and opinions
>
> > Just remember that you were given those patents as incentive to invent
> so
> > that ultimately your work would go into the public domain so we can all
&
On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 12:07, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> > Just remember that you were given those patents as incentive to invent so
> > that ultimately your work would go into the public domain so we can all
> > enjoy it. We are buying your work with our tax dollars by protecting it
> > for a short
> Its extortion in my bookI've been told horror stories from 1st party
> sources about how Voiceage negotiates with their potential customers.
> Then most of us know how much of PITA Voiceage has made codec_g729b.so,
> just so they can soak every nickel they possibly can out of Digium.
I don't
> I have a few SIP phones, Cisco 7960s, and was looking into implementing
> some compression, ala G.729. I'm looking into purchasing a g729
> licenses just to get an idea of performance and voice quality, over
> lans, wireless and single channel isdn.
>
> Does anyone have positive/negative ex
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