Bill Andersen wrote:
> This is not a troll. I've used my real email because I want this
> taken seriously. I'm not trying to make anyone mad, I just want
> some real discussion on this issue. Please bare with me...
>
> I'm a USER of Asterisk. We purchased 3 commercially available
> "Asterisk
John Novack wrote:
>
> Bill Andersen wrote:
>> This is not a troll. I've used my real email because I want this
>> taken seriously. I'm not trying to make anyone mad, I just want
>> some real discussion on this issue. Please bare with me...
>>
>> I'm a USER of Asterisk. We purchased 3 commerci
On March 19, 2008 12:43:21 pm Bill Andersen wrote:
> I'm a USER of Asterisk. We purchased 3 commercially available
> "Asterisk Based" PBXs a little over a year ago. (I won't mention
> which one at this point - I don't want to bad mouth them - yet!)
> Two of the systems are very small (5 SIP lines/
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:43:21AM -0500, Bill Andersen wrote:
> This is not a troll. I've used my real email because I want this
> taken seriously. I'm not trying to make anyone mad, I just want
> some real discussion on this issue. Please bare with me...
>
> 2) Are there any users out there t
> John
>
> You have raised few valid points. Thanks.
>
> However, I will say that it is not asterisk but people/company
deploying
> it. Generally speaking after deployment, and as long users are "using"
> the system normally, no reboot is required.
>
> And yes, running the whole thing from stand
Bill Andersen wrote:
> This is not a troll. I've used my real email because I want this
> taken seriously. I'm not trying to make anyone mad, I just want
> some real discussion on this issue. Please bare with me...
>
> I'm a USER of Asterisk. We purchased 3 commercially available
> "Asterisk Ba
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Senad Jordanovic wrote:
> And yes, running the whole thing from standard PC based "desktop" will
> eventually cause issues hence an solid state appliance is a way to go :)
My gripe is that I think people try to put too much into a system, don't
have a "server build and oper
>
> 130 physical extensions including 24x7 inbound call centre
>
> Debian on Dell server
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# uptime
> 13:15:31 up 192 days, 23:49, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
here is one more running multi tenant Hosted PBXes:
saul ~ # uptime
18:59:11 up 263 days, 23:50,
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 06:54:46PM +, Gordon Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Senad Jordanovic wrote:
>
> > And yes, running the whole thing from standard PC based "desktop" will
> > eventually cause issues hence an solid state appliance is a way to go :)
>
> My gripe is that I think
An off-the-shelf 5+ year old MSI MS-6378X-L motherboard, 1.6GHz AMD, 512
RAM, 10 extensions, no more than three concurrent calls:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uptime
11:31:45 up 103 days, 1:00, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
But:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo asterisk -rx 'core show uptime'
S
On Mar 19, 2008, at 1:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Am I expecting too much?
Perhaps.
I think the hardware on which we run Asterisk can be much more
reliable than the software, which is often the case. We have a bunch
of HP servers with RAID and have never lost anything. A HD may
Senad Jordanovic wrote:
130 physical extensions including 24x7 inbound call centre
Debian on Dell server
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# uptime
13:15:31 up 192 days, 23:49, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
here is one more running multi tenant Hosted PBXes:
saul ~ # uptime
18:59:11 up 263 d
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 06:54:46PM +, Gordon Henderson wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Senad Jordanovic wrote:
>>
>>> And yes, running the whole thing from standard PC based "desktop" will
>>> eventually cause issues hence an solid state appliance is
Senad Jordanovic wrote:
> However, I will say that it is not asterisk but people/company
> deploying it. Generally speaking after deployment, and as long
> users are "using" the system normally, no reboot is required.
I'm thinking part of the problem IS the company deploying
the "commercial" produ
Bill Andersen wrote:
>a) IF... I expect a phone system to just work. Once it is
> configured, a phone system should just work with
> very little attention. My previous system was a
> Comdial with external voice mail on a DOS based PC.
> I LITERALLY WENT OVER 4 YEARS WI
Andrew Kohlsmith (lists) wrote:
> If you're continuously restarting Asterisk, there is something wrong
> with your setup: hardware, software or both. I have many installs
> out there on commodity hardware (either pure-voip or digital (PRI)
> only with Polycom handsets) and none of them need to be
The box has been up since we upgraded the UPS, time before was for the
disk failure in Feb 2007.
Asterisk has now been up for 5 hours, 44 minutes (yes, by Murphy's Law,
I'm troubleshooting a problem but"restart when convenient" does not
impact real uptime) but yesterday it had been up for 63+ d
Drew Gibson wrote:
> The box has been up since we upgraded the UPS, time before was for the
> disk failure in Feb 2007.
>
> Asterisk has now been up for 5 hours, 44 minutes (yes, by Murphy's Law,
> I'm troubleshooting a problem but"restart when convenient" does not
> impact real uptime) but yest
Thank you to everyone that replied to my post. I started to
reply to most of them, but it is getting a little out of hand.
Again, thank you. It actually makes me think the problem is not
so much with "Asterisk" as it is with implementation. (My Vendor)
Although this is a "users" list, I think it
Bill Andersen wrote:
> Senad Jordanovic wrote:
>> However, I will say that it is not asterisk but people/company
>> deploying it. Generally speaking after deployment, and as long
>> users are "using" the system normally, no reboot is required.
>
> I'm thinking part of the problem IS the company de
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Bill Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Although this is a "users" list, I think it is more of a list
> for Asterisk "resellers". I'd be interested in how many of you
> are simply using Asterisk as your phone system and NOT selling
> your services or an As
ist - Non-Commercial Discussion"
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Is Asterisk ready for Prime-Time?
Thank you to everyone that replied to my post. I started to
reply to most of them, but it is getting a little out of hand.
I'm just a user :) we do real estate appraisals, and I found the time
to roll my own (so to speak) pbx. We're on 1.4.4, TDM card with four
FXOs. Honestly, you'll find it's easy to toss some zaptel and asterisk
tarballs onto a system and compile them. You'll probably learn a lot
along the wa
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Bill Andersen wrote:
> Thank you to everyone that replied to my post. I started to
> reply to most of them, but it is getting a little out of hand.
> Again, thank you. It actually makes me think the problem is not
> so much with "Asterisk" as it is with implementation. (My V
I am a user and a consultant.
I stick with 1.2.X and use server grade (not Dell) rackmount units. I
offload everything except what is needed. Put the DB on a different
box, run fastagi, no GUI, vi to hand edit my confs. Very stable this
way. I try to recommend this to clients but often they fi
Bill Andersen wrote:
> Although this is a "users" list, I think it is more of a list
> for Asterisk "resellers". I'd be interested in how many of you
> are simply using Asterisk as your phone system and NOT selling
> your services or an Asterisk based solution?
>
> Anyone? Just a user?
I'm "just
For true "TELCO" reliability, get a TELCO based service such as "CENTREX".
* is cool and I like it and it brings some really cool stuff to the
table, but, it is NOT
"Carrier Grade" TELCO.
Anyone who tries to sell it to that way is just not being truthful. On
the other hand there
is a lot of stuff
do.
Tom
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Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:45 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Is Asterisk ready for Prime-Time?
Bill Andersen
Quote "I stick with 1.2.X and use server grade (not Dell) rackmount units. "
Would you share which "Server Grade" rack mounts you use ?
I have a project that could use quite a few and I am getting
"suggestions" to order DELL.
Thanks.
Steve Totaro wrote:
> I am a user and a consultant.
>
> I s
All I can say is what has worked best for me over the years trying
many different boxen. IBM X Series and HP DL 3XXs, have heard that
Supermicro is "Super", just have not the pleasure yet.
Dells have given me problems, not always, but enough to be bitten
once, and twice shy...
Thanks,
Steve Tota
I would not consider a "Dell SC440 w/RAID 1" "Server Grade" you can
pick them up for $250 on sale.
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Steve Totaro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All I can say is what has worked best for me over the years trying
> many different boxen. IBM X Series and HP DL 3XXs, ha
Quote"
This code is pre-Asterisk 1.0... It processes quite a few calls daily, I
have about 1,800 DID numbers pointed at it, "
Are you SURE on that figure. Since you cold have at MOST 4 T1's coming into
that box, 1,800 DIDs pointing to it sems like
one hell of a congestion problem and a Dialpl
If Jared Smith is following this thread, and I am sure he is or will,
WOW, what an opportunity to bring SwitchVox to the spotlight. (I
personally really like SwitchVox and had over a year before Digium
made the acquisition. I never had to reboot that box and it had ~40
extensions and a Digium T1
Steve Totaro wrote:
> Anyways, as to the four FXO system, I would not think twice to steer
> that customer to the 3Com V3000.
Interesting :) When I (the tech guy) leave this office, they just
*could* be asking me what to do when it breaks? lol :)
___
Call your dealer as I am sure you would have a support contract.
Haven't really seen one "break" yet though. VxWorks is what runs
satellites and junk ;-)
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Mojo with Horan & Company, LLC
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Totaro wrote:
> > An
He could mean SIP or IAX
Al Baker wrote:
> Quote"
>
> This code is pre-Asterisk 1.0... It processes quite a few calls daily, I
> have about 1,800 DID numbers pointed at it, "
>
> Are you SURE on that figure. Since you cold have at MOST 4 T1's coming into
> that box, 1,800 DIDs pointing to it sem
> Are you SURE on that figure. Since you cold have at MOST 4 T1's coming into
> that box, 1,800 DIDs pointing to it sems like
> one hell of a congestion problem and a Dialplan thicker than War and Peace
We have a box with 5,000 DDIs coming into 2 PRIs. The number of DDIs isn't
particularly impor
Sure some others on here may disagree, but I am also over on the trixbox
forums, and have often seen talk about the 2.6.9 kernel having interrupt
issues, and such that cause asterisk issues. One reason I think they moved
forward into the CentOS 5.x stuff, so they got the 2.6.18 kernel, which I a
Our office PABX is a via low heat pc, with an ISDN10 and 15 IP handsets.
It gets regularly used and abused by us linux idiots in the office, and
runs like a charm. We test software on it, write silly dialplans and
generally treat it badly.
It could not be described as 'server grade' by any reaso
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 08:08:18PM -0400, Howard Leadmon wrote:
>
> Sure some others on here may disagree, but I am also over on the trixbox
> forums, and have often seen talk about the 2.6.9 kernel having interrupt
> issues, and such that cause asterisk issues. One reason I think they moved
> f
I think some people here (like myself) started off as Asterisk users,
then moved on to helping other people with their Asterisk systems.
Which makes sense - once your Asterisk box is running well, why not
share how nice your work is/was?
PaulH
On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 16:38 -0500, Bill Andersen
Nice topic, all this hardware/software gave me a migrene at start, after
that it was pretty much stable (1 reboot/30 days) As for me the crappyest
thing in computer is a power supply, you can get the motherboard with less
heat, good ram ect, but power supply will allways have a fan. i found
the
On March 19, 2008 07:00:20 pm Steve Totaro wrote:
> I would not consider a "Dell SC440 w/RAID 1" "Server Grade" you can
> pick them up for $250 on sale.
Why not? Is the price not high enough, or is there some technical reason? I
ask because your only explanation as to why it's not server grade
On March 19, 2008 05:05:05 pm Bill Andersen wrote:
> CentOS release 4.4 (Final)
> Kernel 2.6.9-34.0.2.ELsmp (SMP)
> Asterisk 1.4.16.2
> Dell SC440 w/RAID 1
> Digium TE120P
>
> The GUI is a commercially available product, to remain un-named at this
> point.
Ok, and what specifically are the types o
Paul Hales wrote:
> I think some people here (like myself) started off as Asterisk users,
> then moved on to helping other people with their Asterisk systems.
>
> Which makes sense - once your Asterisk box is running well, why not
> share how nice your work is/was?
I would second that. In fact
On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 19:14 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
> If Jared Smith is following this thread, and I am sure he is or will,
> WOW, what an opportunity to bring SwitchVox to the spotlight.
You'd better believe I'm following the thread. :-) Even though I've
been at a trade show all day and I'm
Very interesting thread!
My general sense, being both a person of heavy UNIX systems programming
and modest telco background, and as an Asterisk enthusiast, is that
Asterisk itself is quite production-worthy as such. Experience suggests
that what is controversial about it from a business stand
Not sure if this is the best place to ask this or not...but since it was
mentioned..
Is "SwitchVox" a alternative to * ?
Were they a competitor to *, and DIGIUM bought them and so DIGIUM
has 2 Totally Different PBX software packages ?
Sorry if I am asking a ? that everyone is totally clear o
Who are you getting your HP DL3xxx from ?
Steve Totaro wrote:
> All I can say is what has worked best for me over the years trying
> many different boxen. IBM X Series and HP DL 3XXs, have heard that
> Supermicro is "Super", just have not the pleasure yet.
>
> Dells have given me problems, not al
On Thursday 20 March 2008 00:09:36 Al Baker wrote:
> Not sure if this is the best place to ask this or not...but since it was
> mentioned..
> Is "SwitchVox" a alternative to * ?
> Were they a competitor to *, and DIGIUM bought them and so DIGIUM
> has 2 Totally Different PBX software packages ???
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 01:09:36AM -0400, Al Baker wrote:
> Not sure if this is the best place to ask this or not...but since it was
> mentioned..
> Is "SwitchVox" a alternative to * ?
> Were they a competitor to *, and DIGIUM bought them and so DIGIUM
> has 2 Totally Different PBX software pack
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:59:08AM -0400, Alex Balashov wrote:
> At the risk of inflaming a lot of passions, including those of
> hard-working developers, I must say that where Asterisk may be
> production-worthy, the entire constellation of things (like Zaptel) of
> which its PSTN hardware int
Excellent topic and points brought up by all!
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Think of Asterisk not as a PBX but as a PBX toolkit. Various people in
That's always been the way I saw asterisk. I wondered why people
sometimes try to interface it with lega
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> Yeah, right. And we have no SIP compatibility issues at all. It is also
> funny that you reflect the quality of old PRI card of one company and
> yet ignore all the past mishaps of SIP devices.
Oh, no, I didn't mean to imply that. There are plenty of SIP interop
problems
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:38:23 -0500, "Bill Andersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Although this is a "users" list, I think it is more of a list
> for Asterisk "resellers". I'd be interested in how many of you
> are simply using Asterisk as your phone system and NOT selling
> your services or an As
> Although this is a "users" list, I think it is more of a list
> for Asterisk "resellers". I'd be interested in how many of you
> are simply using Asterisk as your phone system and NOT selling
> your services or an Asterisk based solution?
I'm responsible (development, maintenance, support) for
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 06:45:14AM -0400, Alex Balashov wrote:
> Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>
> > Yeah, right. And we have no SIP compatibility issues at all. It is also
> > funny that you reflect the quality of old PRI card of one company and
> > yet ignore all the past mishaps of SIP devices.
>
> Oh,
Andreas Sikkema wrote:
> I've literally got _thousands_ of users and Asterisk is rock
> solid for us.
>
>
I think most of the instabilities are from the use of queues and
mixmonitor/chanspy.
I don't use either and have no real issues. I still restart the
Asterisk service once a week though,
Appologies for top-posting. This is the most interesting thread in a
long time. Alex, yours is the most well considered opinion I've seen in
a long while. I exactlt reflects my own, moerw limited experience.
Thank you for chiming in.
Two weeks ago on the VOIP Users Conference weekly call we had a
> I reboot every evening :) Drew, what's the uptime on your
> asterisk process on that box that's been up for 193 days?
I too restart the asterisk process every night as part of the cron process.
Many people here seem to be under the impression that restarting the
application every day is a bad
> Although this is a "users" list, I think it is more of a list for
> Asterisk "resellers". I'd be interested in how many of you are simply
> using Asterisk as your phone system and NOT selling your services or
> an Asterisk based solution?
I actually work as a software engineer for a big tele
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 09:31:03AM -0500, John Faubion wrote:
> > I reboot every evening :) Drew, what's the uptime on your
> > asterisk process on that box that's been up for 193 days?
>
> I too restart the asterisk process every night as part of the cron process.
> Many people here seem to be
On Mar 20, 2008, at 12:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Sure some others on here may disagree, but I am also over on the
trixbox
forums, and have often seen talk about the 2.6.9 kernel having
interrupt
issues, and such that cause asterisk issues. One reason I think
they moved
forward int
On Mar 19, 2008, at 5:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Anyone? Just a user?
I'm just a user, although I also develop things for internal use.
Norman Franke
Answering Service for Directors, Inc.
www.myasd.com
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Is Asterisk ready for Prime-Time?
On Mar 20, 2008, at 12:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure some others on here may disagree, but I am also over on the trixbox
forums, and have often seen talk about the 2.6.9
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:10:21AM -0400, Norman Franke wrote:
> On Mar 20, 2008, at 12:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > Sure some others on here may disagree, but I am also over on the
> >trixbox
> >forums, and have often seen talk about the 2.6.9 kernel having
> >interrupt
> >issues
John Faubion wrote:
>> Although this is a "users" list, I think it is more of a list for
>> Asterisk "resellers". I'd be interested in how many of you are simply using
>> Asterisk as your phone system and NOT selling your services or an Asterisk
>> based solution?
>>
>
> I actually work
> For such a small system there is no earthly reason for it to
> be 10 percent of that, even on a 5 year lease.
> I know that EVERYTHING is big in Texas, but that is nothing
> more than highway robbery.
I fully agreed, that's why we built her an Asterisk based system. Splitting
this up they want
No, I meant if I leave this office, what to do when the cpu fan or power
supply breaks on our current * box :) They might just be so worried
that they'd *want* something like the 3Com V3000 :)
Steve Totaro wrote:
> Call your dealer as I am sure you would have a support contract.
>
> Haven't rea
Am Donnerstag, den 20.03.2008, 16:59 +0200 schrieb Tzafrir Cohen:
> And what happens if at the time of the shutdown there was a
>
> ___
> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
ROTFL
Trafrir, you made my day.
(BTW: I t
On March 20, 2008 02:33:52 pm Anselm Martin Hoffmeister wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 20.03.2008, 16:59 +0200 schrieb Tzafrir Cohen:
> > And what happens if at the time of the shutdown there was a
> ROTFL
> Trafrir, you made my day.
Oh god, I didn't realize that wasn't a typo until you wrote that..
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:01 PM, RE Kushner List Account <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Al Baker wrote:
> > Quote"
> >
> > This code is pre-Asterisk 1.0... It processes quite a few calls daily, I
> > have about 1,800 DID numbers pointed at it, "
> >
> > Are you SURE on that figure. Since you c
Steve Totaro wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:01 PM, RE Kushner List Account <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> Al Baker wrote:
>> > Quote"
>> >
>> > This code is pre-Asterisk 1.0... It processes quite a few calls daily, I
>> > have about 1,800 DID numbers pointed at it, "
>> >
>> > Are
Al Baker wrote:
> Quote"
>
> This code is pre-Asterisk 1.0... It processes quite a few calls daily, I
> have about 1,800 DID numbers pointed at it, "
>
> Are you SURE on that figure. Since you cold have at MOST 4 T1's coming into
> that box, 1,800 DIDs pointing to it sems like
> one hell of a c
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Norman Franke wrote:
> On Mar 20, 2008, at 12:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Sure some others on here may disagree, but I am also over on the trixbox
>> forums, and have often seen talk about the 2.6.9 kernel having interrupt
>> issues, and such that cause asterisk issue
That probably includes 5 years of support but still expensive.
John Faubion wrote:
>> Although this is a "users" list, I think it is more of a list for
>> Asterisk "resellers". I'd be interested in how many of you are simply
using Asterisk as your phone system and NOT selling your services or an
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