[ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

I have a scenario where it would be nice to use multiple wireless nodes to connect point A to points B, C and D instead of running cable/fiber. Actually providing a wireless network for people to connect to at either end is immaterial. I've been playing with a couple Alix boards with AR9220

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

John Nielsen wrote: > So what do you guys think? OLSR + ad-hoc? Mesh? Multiple AP's and > Stations? WDS? P2P? Afraid neither code nor community is really quite mature for that discussion. > While we're at it, any specific distro's to try or avoid? Basically you need to track wireless-testing

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > John Nielsen wrote: >> So what do you guys think? OLSR + ad-hoc? Mesh? Multiple AP's and >> Stations? WDS? P2P? > > Afraid neither code nor community is really quite mature for that > discussion. Just as I was thinking OpenWrt is showing more

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

Larry Vaden wrote: > >> So what do you guys think? OLSR + ad-hoc? Mesh? Multiple AP's and > >> Stations? WDS? P2P? > > > > Afraid neither code nor community is really quite mature for that > > discussion. > > Just as I was thinking OpenWrt is showing more vitality than 11 out of > 10 other project

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

Run node A in AP mode, have nodes B,C and D connect to it. Do lots of site scans use chans 1,6,11 as needed. Don't use any encryption. Use openvpn or similar in UDP mode with multi cons up from each of B,C and D to A. This will give you IMHO the best hassle free results, with ath9k . 802.11s

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Larry Vaden wrote: >> >> So what do you guys think? OLSR + ad-hoc? Mesh? Multiple AP's and >> >> Stations? WDS? P2P? >> > >> > Afraid neither code nor community is really quite mature for that >> > discussion. >> >> Just as I was thinking OpenW

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

Larry Vaden wrote: > > I was refering exclusively to the ath9k code and community. .. > I look at ath9k, Felix, Adrian et al as real sw folks who have > forgotten more than I'll ever know wrt the specifics of the matter > at hand. Yes Felix in particular does an amazing job on the Linux driver, bu

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

Almost all Atheros-based commercial products on the market are still based on Atheros's SDK, its driver is still madwifi-based but worked _reliably_. The IBSS/adhoc driver in that SDK is not fully done(especially 11N), as 99% customers are doing AP/STA and nobody needs to care on that 1%. On Tue,

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: > > The fact remains that ath9k on Linux is not mature rock solid in all > different modes and bands, and that hasn't really changed over the > last year and a half I've been around, despite the endless hours that > have been spent on the driver.

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Xianghua Xiao wrote: > Almost all Atheros-based commercial products on the market are still > based on Atheros's SDK, its driver is still madwifi-based but worked > _reliably_. The IBSS/adhoc driver in that SDK is not fully > done(especially 11N), as 99% customers

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

On 2011-04-27 2:18 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Larry Vaden wrote: >> > I was refering exclusively to the ath9k code and community. > .. >> I look at ath9k, Felix, Adrian et al as real sw folks who have >> forgotten more than I'll ever know wrt the specifics of the matter >> at hand. > > Yes Felix

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

On 27 April 2011 15:52, Felix Fietkau wrote: >> I'm eager to test ath9k hardware with fbsd because Adrian indeed has >> much more than a clue. > Sure, Adrian is good at what he does, but Atheros support in FreeBSD is > still quite a bit behind, because for a long time very little work has > been

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

Thanks! This is the kind of feedback I was looking for. Comments below. On Apr 26, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote: > Run node A in AP mode, > > have nodes B,C and D connect to it. > > Do lots of site scans use chans 1,6,11 as needed. > > Don't use any encryption. > > Use openvpn

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

On 28 April 2011 01:03, John Nielsen wrote: > Regarding the other direction this thread has taken, I also thought that the > doom and gloom re: the status and future of ath9k was a bit overstated. It is > disappointing to not have more direct support from Atheros but at least the > code is out

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

WDS is crap, don't use it. You effectively half the available bandwidth per node in a WDS network, it's a hack and is only useful if you want coverage at the sacrifice of bandwidth of the link. On 28 April 2011 05:03, John Nielsen wrote: > Thanks! This is the kind of feedback I was looking for. C

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > If I can make a suggestion, and you should take this as a "hint" about > the direction you (being "people on this list") should take - get into > ath9k development. Show initiative and interest, get some work done, > and ask for help. Even i

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote: > WDS is crap, don't use it. You effectively half the available > bandwidth per node in a WDS network, it's a hack and is only useful if > you want coverage at the sacrifice of bandwidth of the link. There is one vendor in the marketplac

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

On 28 April 2011 09:27, Larry Vaden wrote: > There is one vendor in the marketplace where if you want layer 2 > transparency on a p-t-p link, you VILL use WDS :( What's broken about WDS? Just that you halve bandwidth? Adrian ___ ath9k-devel mailing l

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

On 28 April 2011 09:25, Larry Vaden wrote: > Is > more or less the best reference for learning about bisecting patches? I think so. I'm not really up to date for doing Linux bisecting. :-) Adrian

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On 28 April 2011 09:27, Larry Vaden wrote: > >> There is one vendor in the marketplace where if you want layer 2 >> transparency on a p-t-p link, you VILL use WDS :( > > What's broken about WDS? Just that you halve bandwidth? WDS is like a 3

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

On 2011-04-28 2:58 AM, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote: > WDS is crap, don't use it. You effectively half the available > bandwidth per node in a WDS network, it's a hack and is only useful if > you want coverage at the sacrifice of bandwidth of the link. WDS doesn't cut your bandwidth in half, repeating

Re: [ath9k-devel] What mode to use for wireless backhaul?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Felix Fietkau wrote: > On 2011-04-28 2:58 AM, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote: >> WDS is crap, don't use it. You effectively half the available >> bandwidth per node in a WDS network, it's a hack and is only useful if >> you want coverage at the sacrifice of bandwidth of