Re: HTML/XHTML type issues, was: FW: XML Directorate Reviewer Comments

2005-04-14 Thread Thomas Broyer
Robert Sayre wrote: [snip: an example with mixed XHTML and MicroSoft stuff] Thank you, Asbjørn: this is a delightful little problem. You see, XHTML validity is specified in terms of DTDs. Near as I can tell, that example and some of the XHTML examples in the spec are 'invalid' because the

Re: HTML/XHTML type issues, was: FW: XML Directorate Reviewer Comments

2005-04-14 Thread Bill de hÓra
Anne van Kesteren wrote: Norman Walsh wrote: | XHTML 2 does have a different namespace. Ouch. I had forgotten or failed to notice that. Yeah, using namespaces for versioning sucks... I don't have any. I'll tailor my content to suit what the major vendors support, just like I do with my plain old

Re: HTML/XHTML type issues, was: FW: XML Directorate Reviewer Comments

2005-04-14 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Apr 14, 2005, at 10:07, Thomas Broyer wrote: [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1-schema/ For the record, James Clark has made Relax NG schemas for some flavors of XHTML 1.x. Surely James Clark is at least as good an authority as the W3C. :-) http://www.thaiopensource.com/relaxng/xhtml/ -- Henri

Re: HTML/XHTML type issues, was: FW: XML Directorate Reviewer Comments

2005-04-14 Thread Antone Roundy
On Thursday, April 14, 2005, at 06:04 AM, Bill de hÓra wrote: I don't think is comes under the category of namespaces for versioning problem. We made this problem ourselves, due to the consensus view that says default namespaces are so valuable we have the bake an inverted dependency into

Re: HTML/XHTML type issues, was: FW: XML Directorate Reviewer Comments

2005-04-14 Thread Thomas Broyer
Henri Sivonen wrote: On Apr 14, 2005, at 10:07, Thomas Broyer wrote: [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1-schema/ For the record, James Clark has made Relax NG schemas for some flavors of XHTML 1.x. Surely James Clark is at least as good an authority as the W3C. :-)

PaceRecommendPlainTextContent: another dangerous tags example

2005-04-14 Thread Thomas Broyer
This a far less exotic dangerous tags example for PaceRecommendPlainTextContent: content type=xhtml div xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; img src=W.png alt=W class=drop-cap /e are offering a 15 img src=euro.png alt=euros / rebate on our last product! /div /content Said that,

Re: HTML/XHTML type issues, was: FW: XML Directorate Reviewer Comments

2005-04-14 Thread Robert Sayre
Bill de hra wrote: If there is not a tidy way out of this, or we don't just agree to scope it as a point solution for a particular flavour of XHTML, I suggest we revisit the xhtml:div approach altogether. Bill, I don't think the problem is exclusive to the outer div. I can't find any version of

RE: One reason we have duplicates entries is that we have duplicate feeds...

2005-04-14 Thread Antone Roundy
...back in town, and ready to express opinions... Thomas Broyer wrote: Bob Wyman wrote: Robert Sayre wrote: You can point to an alternate feed like this link rel=alternate type=some/feed href=... / Of course, you can't have two alternates with the same media type... Yes, you can point to an

Re: HTML/XHTML type issues, was: FW: XML Directorate Reviewer Comments

2005-04-14 Thread Thomas Broyer
Robert Sayre wrote: I can't find any version of XHTML that allows xh:p/ where xh is bound to the XHTML namespace URI. !DOCTYPE xh:div PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN [ !ENTITY % NS.prefixed INCLUDE !ENTITY % XHTML.prefix xh ] xh:div xmlns:xh=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en This

Test documents (was:Re: HTML/XHTML type issues, was: FW: XML Directorate Reviewer Comments)

2005-04-14 Thread Robert Sayre
Bill de hÓra wrote: while I do realize that XML in XML tends be a broader problem that just Atom, one counter-example on prefixed Atom+XHTML not working would probably shut me up. I'm not looking to shut you up, but I thought I'd do some experiments. The two feeds below are identical (save

Re: HTML/XHTML type issues, was: FW: XML Directorate Reviewer Comments

2005-04-14 Thread Bill de hÓra
Klotz, Leigh wrote: I think that casting this problem as XML-in-XML is a problem in itself, It's a problem, but I don't see as casting. But like I said, if that's not the technical problem, I'll gladly shut up. If it is, we could do worse than be cognizant as to what we're working around. and