Re: Cleanup phase - remaining Paces

2005-04-28 Thread Antone Roundy
The following Paces have not had their fate officially decided: PaceOptionalSummary (+1) PaceXmlContentWrapper (+1 -- there was plenty of opposition during the discussion of this one, but it seemed to be directed at both the current spec and the Pace, so I don't think it's clear whether people p

Re: Cleanup phase

2005-04-28 Thread Bill de hÓra
Bill: That last objection in parens sounds like some of the positions held around dates - that providers ought to do the right thing for some definition of the right thing. Given that legacy, I'll claim it's clear we're not here to police what people ought do with feeds that could have a summa

Re: Cleanup phase

2005-04-28 Thread Bill de hÓra
Sam Ruby wrote: This is not a theoretical discussion. Quoting from RSS 0.92[1]: * All sub-elements of are optional * any 0.92 source is also a valid 2.0 source Is this really where we want to go? No, but please see my other mail replying to Graham on why I think PaceOptionalSummary does not go

Re: Cleanup phase

2005-04-28 Thread Sam Ruby
Graham wrote: On 28 Apr 2005, at 11:34 am, Bill de hÓra wrote: I haven't seen any objections to "title only feeds" which you state is my and Sam's and other's position (we object to feeds that could have a summary included but don't). That last objection in parens sounds like some of the position

Re: Cleanup phase

2005-04-28 Thread Graham
On 28 Apr 2005, at 11:34 am, Bill de hÓra wrote: I haven't seen any objections to "title only feeds" which you state is my and Sam's and other's position (we object to feeds that could have a summary included but don't). That last objection in parens sounds like some of the positions held around

Re: Cleanup phase

2005-04-28 Thread Bill de hÓra
Graham wrote: On 28 Apr 2005, at 10:48 am, Bill de hÓra wrote: Tim Bray wrote: And of course we're going to have to fish some sort of consensus out of this horrid summary-required mess. -Tim I can't agree with that observation. Although there are a few strenuous objections against title only fe

Re: Cleanup phase

2005-04-28 Thread Graham
On 28 Apr 2005, at 10:48 am, Bill de hÓra wrote: Tim Bray wrote: And of course we're going to have to fish some sort of consensus out of this horrid summary-required mess. -Tim I can't agree with that observation. Although there are a few strenuous objections against title only feeds, on the bal

Re: Cleanup phase

2005-04-28 Thread Bill de hÓra
Tim Bray wrote: And of course we're going to have to fish some sort of consensus out of this horrid summary-required mess. -Tim I can't agree with that observation. Although there are a few strenuous objections against title only feeds, on the balance consensus is for them. Is there something y

Re: Cleanup phase

2005-04-28 Thread Robert Sayre
On 4/28/05, Tim Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And of course we're going to have to fish some > sort of consensus out of this horrid summary-required mess. That shouldn't be hard. I don't think the WG has ever been more decisive. If PaceOptionalSummary received 10 negative opinions, I'm qui

Cleanup phase

2005-04-28 Thread Tim Bray
On Apr 27, 2005, at 9:05 AM, Sam Ruby wrote (about the proposal to address Bob Wyman's dupes issue): It would help if a Pace could be written. Funny you should say that, Sam. We have another week or so to go on our IETF Last Call, but the volume of input is low enough that Paul & I think we can