Re: Google Sitemaps: Yet another RSS or site-metadata format and Atom competitor

2005-06-16 Thread Danny Ayers
Ach, late to the thread again. When I saw Google Sitemaps I also thought of RDF Site Summary, and did a sitemap2rss.xsl. But as noted already the role of RSS has mutated from site summary to a content delivery format, so it wasn't a very good fit. But it was straightforward to take their data

Re: Google Sitemaps: Yet another RSS or site-metadata format and Atom competitor

2005-06-07 Thread gstein
On 6/4/05, Bob Wyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I think it would be really wonderful if we were to find that non-blog web sites start producing this data. My only regret is that Google has confused matters by publishing this new format to muddy the waters... It was not published to

RE: Google Sitemaps: Yet another RSS or site-metadata format and Atom competitor

2005-06-07 Thread Bob Wyman
Greg Stein wrote: It was not published to muddy the waters. That implies a specific intent which was *definitely* not present. Please accept my apologies for what was poor writing. I can see how you read my sentence as implying intent to muddy. It wasn't my intent, however, to imply

Re: Google Sitemaps: Yet another RSS or site-metadata format and Atom competitor

2005-06-07 Thread Walter Underwood
--On June 7, 2005 3:17:04 AM -0700 gstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: proprietary connotes closed. We published the spec and encourage other search engines to use it. There is no intent to close or control it. Proprietary means owned. Google clearly owns Google Sitemaps. The license requires

Re: Google Sitemaps: Yet another RSS or site-metadata format and Atom competitor

2005-06-06 Thread Henry Story
I completely agree. At the core, a feed is just a list of state changes to web resources. It will be the perfect format for notifying search engines of all the changes to a web site, thereby massively reducing the time it will take them to crawl the web. Henry Story On 3 Jun 2005, at

Re: Google Sitemaps: Yet another RSS or site-metadata format and Atom competitor

2005-06-04 Thread Robert Sayre
On 6/4/05, Bob Wyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graham wrote: I don't see how a highly specialized format for a particular task is a competitor to or even compatible with what Atom does. The highly specialized task which is performed using the Sitemap format is providing lists of

Re: Google Sitemaps: Yet another RSS or site-metadata format and Atom competitor

2005-06-04 Thread James Tauber
I've been serving my site (not the change log but the actual site) as an Atom feed for as long as my blog has had an Atom feed. One nice (and unintentional) side effect of this is that I can subscribe to the site map in Bloglines and have Bloglines tell me when my non-blog pages are

Re: Google Sitemaps: Yet another RSS or site-metadata format and Atom competitor

2005-06-03 Thread Arve Bersvendsen
On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 23:28:35 +0200, Bob Wyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps we can convince Google to work with the Atom Working Group on starting an effort to define more compatible formats Actually, Google Sitemaps is already compatible with the Google sitemap service. From

Re: Google Sitemaps: Yet another RSS or site-metadata format and Atom competitor

2005-06-03 Thread Arve Bersvendsen
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 00:29:34 +0200, Arve Bersvendsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Google Sitemaps is already compatible with the Google sitemap service. err. Make that compatible with Atom -- Arve http://virtuelvis.com - http://userjs.org

RE: Google Sitemaps: Yet another RSS or site-metadata format and Atom competitor

2005-06-03 Thread Bob Wyman
Arve Bersvendsen wrote: Actually, Google Sitemaps is already compatible with [Atom]. Yes, I've had a number of folk send me mail pointing to the FAQ that I did not read as closely as I should. In fact, it is great that Google is willing to accept Atom 0.3 files instead of just their

Re: Google Sitemaps: Yet another RSS or site-metadata format and Atom competitor

2005-06-03 Thread James M Snell
Bob Wyman wrote: Arve Bersvendsen wrote: Actually, Google Sitemaps is already compatible with [Atom]. Yes, I've had a number of folk send me mail pointing to the FAQ that I did not read as closely as I should. In fact, it is great that Google is willing to accept Atom 0.3

Re: Google Sitemaps: Yet another RSS or site-metadata format and Atom competitor

2005-06-03 Thread Eric Scheid
On 4/6/05 10:02 AM, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see how a highly specialized format for a particular task is a competitor to or even compatible with what Atom does. There's nothing in our charter that says we've failed if it isn't possible to do everything conceivably related to

RE: Google Sitemaps: Yet another RSS or site-metadata format and Atom competitor

2005-06-03 Thread Bob Wyman
Graham wrote: I don't see how a highly specialized format for a particular task is a competitor to or even compatible with what Atom does. The highly specialized task which is performed using the Sitemap format is providing lists of changed web pages on sites. This is precisely the