call for a vote - was: One reason we have duplicates entries is that we have duplicate feeds...

2005-04-19 Thread Henry Story
I don't see where the consensus was by the way. And I never saw any vote on the issue. Like most issues one gets the impression that Atom is run on some pretense democracy. Some people have made up their minds for god knows what reason, and others are just here to follow. The more we chatter on

Re: call for a vote - was: One reason we have duplicates entries is that we have duplicate feeds...

2005-04-19 Thread Bill de hÓra
Henry Story wrote: So I call for a real open vote on the issue. You don't need to call for a vote, just ask the chairs/editors who keep track of such matters, about the particular specification. If you can point out to me my recollection of the consensus on that issue is incorrect, then do so.

Re: call for a vote - was: One reason we have duplicates entries is that we have duplicate feeds...

2005-04-19 Thread Henry Story
On 19 Apr 2005, at 18:27, Bill de hÓra wrote: Henry Story wrote: So I call for a real open vote on the issue. You don't need to call for a vote, just ask the chairs/editors who keep track of such matters, about the particular specification. Well we need some objective way to tell what the

Re: call for a vote - was: One reason we have duplicates entries is that we have duplicate feeds...

2005-04-19 Thread Robert Sayre
Henry Story wrote: I don't see where the consensus was by the way. And I never saw any vote on the issue. Like most issues one gets the impression that Atom is run on some pretense democracy. There is no voting in the IETF. Please read the beginners' documentation found on ietf.org. Here's a

Re: call for a vote - was: One reason we have duplicates entries is that we have duplicate feeds...

2005-04-19 Thread Graham
I'm in favour of allowing duplicate ids when the source-id is different to simplify creating merged feeds, which would allow the client to figure out what to do. Under any other circumstance, definitely not. Graham

Re: call for a vote - was: One reason we have duplicates entries is that we have duplicate feeds...

2005-04-19 Thread Henry Story
Ok. I am sorry. I thought I had made a really good case for a simple argument to allow multiple entries with the same id in a feed, and thought it had in fact made it into the spec. I then discovered that it still had not. I cleazrly just have no idea how one goes around convincing this group

Re: call for a vote - was: One reason we have duplicates entries is that we have duplicate feeds...

2005-04-19 Thread Henry Story
Just to end on a positive note, I'll +1 this suggestion by Graham. Henry On 19 Apr 2005, at 18:30, Graham wrote: I'm in favour of allowing duplicate ids when the source-id is different to simplify creating merged feeds, which would allow the client to figure out what to do. Under any other

RE: call for a vote - was: One reason we have duplicates entries is that we have duplicate feeds...

2005-04-19 Thread Bob Wyman
Graham wrote: I'm in favour of allowing duplicate ids when the source-id is different +1 This is essentially what I was trying to get at with the horribly tortured language that I recently proposed. Clearly, I support Graham's suggestion and hope that someone with better skill at