An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner...

An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... Just a quick heads up for anyone who's interested; Nightshade and yours truly have chosen to embark upon a monumental undertaking and need at least one willing and experienced developer.  this is game related.  As this is a rather

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... I understand that you don't want to go into many details, but I feel like you'll get more bites if you at least say what languages we should be experienced in. If it hasn't been started at all yet and the language is nego

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... I thought this was a fortune cookie at first.  Darn. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/602910/#p602910 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... I'm sorry if the nature of the original message feels rather vague and enigmatic.  The fact is that the game we have in mind aims to tackle various things at once.  As such, we feel it should be up to the developers to make

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... we are doomed... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/602917/#p602917 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... I agree with 2. Though the programming language may seem like a detail left for later, its an absolutely crucial design decision that cannot be delayed. Your applicants for lead coder will need to be proficient in said language, but your

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... I agree with 2. Though the programming language may seem like a detail left for later, its an absolutely crucial design decision that cannot be delayed. Your applicants for lead coder will need to be proficient in said language, but your

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... Ethin, if neither Nocturnus or nightshade know much by way of which programing language is better over another for their particular situation, such a decision may well be better left to those actually doing the programming, though of

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... True, when planning projects in larger scale you usually line out the scale and functionalities of a project before deciding about which stack you want to use when developing it. Then again, it would be necessary to know some skills your

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... Hi,I also agree with 2. I think even if you don’t want to give away any specific details of the game, just a few basic bits of general information  will probably generate you more interest in the project. Even just some basic general

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... Well, non-programmers leading programmers will not end well. It'll be like trying to herd cats. SO you really need a programmer who is trustworthy who would be a liaison between the other programmers and the team leadership to guide

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... I tried to send an email regarding sound design but it bounced back. I  copied and pasted so there's no error on my end. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/602997/#p602997 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audio

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... Isn't that usually how it goes in business at least? Project leaders tell the programmers what they want done, and the programmers do it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/603002/#p603002 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... but audiogames.net is not a business freelancer site. You can't and shouldn't apply the same expectations.We bareally get enough games with solo devs, and most team projects in the past 5 years besides somehow crazy party has go

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... but audiogames.net is not a business freelancer site. You can't and shouldn't apply the same expectations.We barely get enough games with solo devs, and most team projects in the past 5 years besides somehow crazy party has go

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... 11  believe sound design is not requried in this case because nocturnus is a sound designer himself  lol URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/603019/#p603019 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... Addressing a few things here... I hope no one is offended or put off, and that this helps ease some concerns.  Believe me, even here, though this is hardly the place I wish to be discussing every aspect of the project we have in mind, I

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... @12 Simply put, a lead programmer would be able to manage the other programmers, leaving the project leads to manage the entire project as a whole. Also, the lead programmer should not be a total yes man to the higher ups. They should be

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... @Granny, post 16, a precise and accurate summation of what I'm looking forin a lead dev. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/603133/#p603133 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... I wanted everyone to know this project is still in the works. A lot has happened personally in our lives in the last month including surgery, which is why its been slow.If your still interested, and you either know MOO or are willing to

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... I do know MOO, but there are people who would run circles around me coding wise. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/613151/#p613151 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... I do know MOO, and have had experience both as a programmer on social MOOs and as a wizard. I don't consider myself an absolute expert on all possible aspects of the language, but I consider myself to be pretty good at it. Note: I&#

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... Stunt is critical for the modern MOO IMHO. Toaststunt because it's being worked on. You get a bunch of stuff, including 64 bit ints, the map, the waif datatype, a bunch of stuff that migrated from the database to server builtins, ar

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... I really don't know what game you're making, so I don't know if moo would be the optimal language for it. The most concerning limitations of Moo and related plans are:1. low popularity = lack of external libaries: other lan

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... There's way too little public information on this project to warrant speculation on what is and isn't a good fit for it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/613283/#p613283 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... Nevertheless, he's right about MOO not being good for the things he said it's not good for. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/613296/#p613296 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-guc

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... The real problem with Moo is that the lack of version control means that you have to code directly in prod or copy code across by hand and/or with error-prone processes.If it's a mud Moo is a good fit.  If it's anything else

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... @24 That's fine, but neither is a circular saw. As such, it doesn't make sense to pontificate on why that is the case until we get a little more information on this project. Is it a MUD? a more traditional multi-player game?

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... I do agree there, this closed off approach isn't helping anyone. I get not wanting to spoil things or leak secrets, but it's going to be hard to find people when they have no clue what they're going to be doing. Not only th

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... Yeah, and for some reason everyone in audiogames.net land who asks for devs does the same thing--no public details until a bunch of people are like "you're asking for devs and haven't said anything". URL: https://

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... I mean it's a tough situation because you don't want to get people's hopes up because this community doesn't have the best reputation when it comes to patience, so I do understand the premice for the

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... I mean it's a tough situation because you don't want to get people's hopes up because this community doesn't have the best reputation when it comes to patience, so I do understand the premise for the vaguery. Still,

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... Please be a little patient. Nocturnus is a much better writer than I am and thus he is putting something together to explain what's up, and also to invite some people to have a chat about development. We do have 4 children, and I jus

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... Please be a little patient. Nocturnus is a much better writer than I am and thus he is putting something together to explain what's up, and also to invite some people to have a chat about development. We do have 4 children, and I jus

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... Cool, thanks for that update. It's useful, in that it clarifies what sort of skillset you're looking for. Looking for a developer is a bit like looking for a writer. It's important to clarify at least what type of writing,

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... True story.  I actually have 3 projects in mind.  I'm going to vaguely outline them all because I know that if I can get one of them off the ground I can probably get the other two working more successfully.1.  An FPS shooter i

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... Not skilled here, but it doesn't seem like MOO would be a good fit for either of these URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/613487/#p613487 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... MOO is fine for the project they are currently working on. A mud is something you can pretty much do in any way you want, starting from using MOO and ending at literally writing everything in C++ yourself. URL: https

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... OK, but do you have the story written up for the shooter? If not, it'll be hard to work on the life game if it is a continuation of the shooter's story line. So you have two potential MUDs and one game that would not really tran

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... To answer @35, as a matter of fact, I do.  Given the life game takes place after the shooter, and its story line has been written in thorough detail to include important moments in history that help to bring it together, the shooter&#

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... Wishing you the best of luck.Big projects are an adventure, and I hope this one brings you much joy, mystery, and fun. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/613607/#p613607 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

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Re: An Opportunity May Be Just Around The Corner... @Mirage, I'm ready for it to go nowhere.  When you learn to settle for expecting the worst you can be pleasantly surprised when you get the best.  Do I believe any of these projects are worth investing time, effort and other reso