Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging

Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging ahh, another one of these topics.I'm probably going to end up rambling and saying things that already has been said but here goes.First ... the topic is extremely complicated. There are so many questions you could ask yourself to narr

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging I'd say though gameplay is more important than immersion though, if you have a really immersive game but poor gameplay you'll notice that quicker, I feel, whereas great gameplay can carry a title on its own regardlesss of how g

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging ~While I agree with you on simplicity of gameplay based on player's judgement, I'm afraid I disagree on other items, since immertion in the games world has always been an important factor for me, and even when a game is lacking

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging That's the thing Dark, I've been through the AAA ringer at a big studio and played a lot of videogames though so yes I'm both negative from being burned out by thee industry as a whole, and burned out by the usual crop of g

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging Now here Jase is I think where we disagree, since just looking at some of the games in new releases we have crazy party, warsim and huboodle, all very different games but all imho well put together and doing what they should do and doing it

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging Also for stories, it's not just games, it's TV, movies, etc. there's a great example from wrestling, the WWE grabbed a bunch of TV writers to write heir stories. None of the stories worked very well, and the TV writers we

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging I'm classing them as toys because in my opinion they are, looking at the new releases here personally nothing grabs me, yes you have stuff like AHC, youhave stuff like Warsim but those are, I feel, exceptions, not the rule, I

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging @Jase, my point was not that sighted players are! spacially aware, just that the sort of instant spacial judgements and apprehention they make are not based on a simple reaction test. It is the fact that such judgements need to  learned and

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging Interesting discussions here. I know its been a while since I've been here, but I do check in to see whats going on.Engaging the players is something I have been reminded of lately, not just grinding, but doing something with a purpo

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging Also, @Dark:the problem isn't the physics, I witnessed first hand when the Deathmatch series went to first person. Everyone was excited about the movethen whine and bitched and moaned it was 'too hard' to learn FPS navig

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging @Dark: Gamers aren't spatially aware. You've never played much CoD or BF then have you? On those games people do the stupidest things and you think they'd know betterbut the best example is Minecraft. You'd think

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging Hi. An the new version of thorn hill is lots of fun, I like all the cave descriptions and the bones make things feel nicely ominous, the monster munching also made both mrs. Dark and I laugh . If you do come up with an alexa dark tower or

Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging

Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging Hi. An the new version of thorn hill is lots of fun, I like all the cave descriptions and the bones make things feel nicely ominous. If you do come up with an alexa dark tower or something similar that would be cool indeed. URL: http

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging @Dark - I rolled out a new version of Caves Under Thornhill today with a bat squeak noise, the missed arrow noise, and monster eating noise as well as some randomized cave descriptions.  Also, I'm trying out the idea that two caves out

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging @SwankyGoose, if you made an alexa version of dark tower you would make myself, and my lady extremely happy, especially if it had the ability to play with two human players so we could play together. I've always wanted to play that ty

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging @Dark, I'll give six swords a try, thanks for the suggestion!  Also, thanks for playing Thornhill with the updates, glad the "dun dun dun" got a laugh .Makes sense on trimming the narration back now that there are sound effec

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging I think this makes 3 action platformers I've released with more attention to realistic movement, and 3 which no one has been able to understand, and I cannot figure out why it keeps turning out this way. (The next time I hear "I

Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging

Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging I would agree you can learn audio reaction times in a mainstream game, however, my point was not specifically to do with whether playing mainstream games with effort was worthwhile or even possible (heck I've done so from a low v

Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging

Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging I would agree you can learn audio reaction times in a mainstream game, however, my point was not specifically to do with whether playing mainstream games with effort was worthwhile or even possible (heck I've done so from a low v

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging @15Ok.  I think a couple of wires might've got slightly crossed during my explanation.I believe there is a misconception that in order to even enjoy a mainstream game, you have to have a sighted co-op partner for the entire exper

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging I'm afraid sightless combat, that playing a mainstream game with sighted assistance wouldn't convey the sort of mechanics I'm talking about.Lets take a simple example because the sort of thing I mean is not something that c

Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging

Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging I'm afraid sightless combat, that playing a mainstream game with sighted assistance wouldn't convey the sort of mechanics I'm talking about.Lets take a simple example because the sort of thing I mean is not something that c

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging As I sit here and muse on my next project, got to say, this discussion is extremely valuable.  I am still very much a beginner, with limited knowledge and limited time.  Dark and folks, your views are helping me in my current thoughts on

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging @11I agree that for the audiogame market to progress from what I would personally consider to be a stagnant state that it's been in (aside from a few innovations) for at least a decade, audiogame devs need to be aware of what mains

Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging

Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging @11: Amen, Brother Dark. ... That sounds like the title of a novel. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357167#p357167 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging People have been saying  ever since I first was on this forum that audiogames need to be "like mainstream games" by which they usually mean have hyper complex beatemup mechanics with 30 different characters, all with move sets

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging @9I can certainly agree with audiogames lacking in mainstream-style features, one of many reasons that I rarely play audiogames unless they actually interest me (stark contrast to before the advent of accessibility in console gaming, but

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging SwankyGoose, I have played thorn hill with the adaptations. I do like the sounds and the extra additions (the dun dun dun!" when you smell a monster made me laugh. My only comment though is that now you  included sounds you could pro

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging Hi.For me personally a game needs to make a fiew things right.First is the general atmo of the game, with most games, I just have the feeling of playing these and not be a part of the storie. For me, this includes a natural sounding

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging Hi. Well Alexa does seem to be fixed in terms of being interuptable now which helps. It wasn't so much reviews of other games as the constant requests to write a five star review, or of developers to go and want me to try one of their

Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging

Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging I am starting to update an existing Alexa based game and considering some ideas for new games.  I was happy to find out my existing game was on Dark's list and realized I'd like to learn more about what makes an audio game more engagi

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging For me I like good characters and good story telling.  If there's a battle mechanic in game, the battle mechanics should be fleshed out and not boring to play.  But mainly a good story and engaging characters for me, if I don't

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging Hi. In terms of team management etc, maybe its that I've played far too many text rpgs with the fairly simple fire and forget battle mechanic, since its a very common one in browser games like crimson moon, alien adoption agency etc,

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Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging @CrystalD - Gotcha on good characters and story.  Are there common failings you see in battle mechanics that lead to them being boring?@Dark - Fair point on platform and game type.  Honestly, the number of false starts I've had on RPG

Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging

Re: Opinions on what makes an audio game engaging That's an interesting question and one I've thought over myself in all the time I've been playing audiogames. Broadly I'd say it comes down to three things: 1: Atmosphere. Just as with a graphical game, environment