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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) 163, for orientation, the main problem with blindness is the lack of sight prevents you from scanning with sight. Consider the following scenario.You drop a blind and a sighted person directly in the center of a desert. The

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @160I see. Maybe there is  still a good thing in this, though, I mean, working, being able to contribute to society is important for your psike. I saw blind people who have enough money to leave, but they don't seem very

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) 159, I don't think math or statistics itself  is by its nature visual. But having vision greatly increases your ability to understand them because the concepts can be described easier that way.Camlorn, as for cookin

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) I will often let sighted friends guide me if we're hanging out. My cane is there, but they don't mind guiding and I don't mind being guided. We're all just okay with it, because it's understood that they

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @159To address your last point first: the number of people who get dogs is pretty low, but basically anyone who wants one can get one, and there's no shortage of money for it.  I've not claimed that you could litera

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @153I am in multiple places. I think I know what list you are referring to, and yes, most people there don't see a point in criticising, but a 3rd party screen reader user group, for example, is much more vocal. So a

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @153I am in multiple places. I think I know what list you are referring to, and yes, most people there don't see a point in criticising, but a 3rd party screen reader user group, for example, is much more vocal. So a

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) I didn't have to take any math courses in my two-year diploma program to become a social worker, and that's common enough. When I was originally trying to go for software support, they wanted me to take two math co

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) In Turkey, and from my research most of europe, it is assumed that you are competent in math from high school classes. Economics and psychology  and such aren't considered soft sciences generally, and they do have

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) In Turkey, and from my research most of europe, it is assumed that you are competent in math from high school classes. Economics and psychology  and such aren't considered soft sciences generally, and they do have

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) In Turkey, and from my research most of europe, it is assumed that you are competent in math from high school classes. Economics and psychology  and such aren't considered soft sciences generally, and they do have

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @154I'm not making any sort of ethical statement on cooking/cleaning services.  I'm not sure why you think I am.  But they are unachievable for a vast, vast majority of blind people.  If you have the kind of money to

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) As for access, I think third party access of non-microsoft apps is rolling downhill faster and faster. Take security suites for example. 5 years ago, there were several  that were quite usable, however now the number of fullly

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Camlorn, a few points. I agree that throwing money at stuff like cooking, cleaning isn't a solution for most people. But there are valid reasons you might want to use a cleaning or cooking service or hire a driver. If you

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @152Android is one of the biggest offenders for the "blind people are super enthusiastic for a bad product" points.  You just were in the wrong places.  The Android mailing lists used to be like 90% people saying

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Interesting topic, I'll throw my €0.02. This is going to be pretty long, seriously competing with Musicalman. I don't really feel accessibility has decreased. This thing with people being happy for what they get s

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) I'm capable of reading Braille and use it just about every day.When I am at work, I just find it easier taking advantage of my Braille display rather than listening to my screenreader reading the text out loud to me. I h

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @147My understanding of the UEB situation is that the English part of it isn't really that much more inefficient.  The primary rationale I've seen for it, though this may not be all of it, is that it's about makin

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) as for being blindfolded while playing sports, that makes alot of sense, so you don't represent an unfair advantage to your teammates, as those sports are supposed to be played without sight.And that type of blindfoldi

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Ok  everyone says how   hard nemeth and grade 2 is. Honestly what is hard about grade 2 or nemeth? The number of contractions is childs play compared to Turkish braille. Turkish has a grand total of 832! contractions. And the

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) This is just my opinion, but I feel like UEB was pushed on us by sighted braille readers because learning grade 2 contracted and nemeth is too difficult to keep straight if they transition from one to the other. I guess, context

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Jayde, I am perfectly aware of the meanings of phrases and words, I am a native speaker of English afterall, and have additionally  done extra things  to improve my understanding in addition to education. The word bash, which I

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) I guess we could have an argument about who is and isn't qualified to render judgments on a person's arguments (read: not their skills). But instead, let's not. Let's just accept that words have meaning and

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Jayde, by all do respect, the defenition of bashing   holds. Commenting on someone else's blindness skills, when you have niether the info or training to actually evaluate them is insulting.As for ueb?  How does that hold a

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) I wasn't done learning grade 2 Braille until I could spell the contractions in different words. I guess I had a good vision teacher, because to me that basically overrides the issues with contractions people are saying. Br

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) I wasn't done learning grade 2 Braille until I could spell the contractions in different words. I guess I had a good vision teacher, because to me that basically overrides the issues with contractions people are saying. Br

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Yeah, and what's going to happen is the next generation is going to grow up without it and there will be yet another barrier to higher mathematics.  Yay!I mean seriously, high school trig textbook was 93 volumes in Nemeth

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Nemeth rocks. I used it throughout my schooling and it was fine. New, sure. Difficult to parse when you're young? Sure, a little bit, because it's one more thing to learn. But it works pretty well once it's up a

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @127It's been long enough since I've had to use them that I don't remember the specific dot patterns, but essentially what English braille has had forever is prefixes to words that say what the formatting

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) No, actually. Bashing usually refers to insulting or putting down your opponent. If I destroy you in an argument, that does not by definition mean I bashed you. Now, if I destroyed you in an argument and implied that you were

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) I am not demonizing anyone. I am stating a fact. Bashing is the situation where arguments are fabricated or shown in a way they were clearly not intended as such to demonize someone specificly. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) And you're demonizing the other side by using words like, 'bashing'. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/603778/#p603778 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucu

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) In that earlier post, I hadn't reviewed this particular article, but it is common knowledge that extended changes lead to irreversable neuroplasticity. Again, you are knitpicking. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/6

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Only after the fact, and now you're playing the Daigonite game where every counterpoint is simply, "You didn't read my post closely enough!" URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/603769/#p603769 --

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Post edited to clarify that I was talking about your earlier post on neuroplasticity where you conveniently leave out that it is reversible.Sure you're mentioning it now, but only because I brought  it up. Otherwise you

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Article wrote:Now a long-term study from the Berenson-Allen Center for Noninvasive Brain Stimulation at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center (BIDMC) demonstrates that sudden and complete loss of vision leads to profound – but

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Article wrote:Now a long-term study from the Berenson-Allen Center for Noninvasive Brain Stimulation at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center (BIDMC) demonstrates that sudden and complete loss of vision leads to profound – but

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Again, you don't read my post. I did mention it was reversable according to the article, but that the study  researcher stated it was likely that perminent changes happen over a longer period of time URL:

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Article wrote:Now a long-term study from the Berenson-Allen Center for Noninvasive Brain Stimulation at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center (BIDMC) demonstrates that sudden and complete loss of vision leads to profound – but

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) These are used to draw someone's attention to certain parts of a text. For example,  alot of test questions will ask to select the meaning or find the probblamatic usage of the underlined word. URL: https://forum.audiogame

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Bold, italics, underlining, etc. are modifiers used for [Emphasis] in literary topography. Each of them can have small differences, some more subtle or overt. Italics for example slants letters to more subtly express a word or

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @127, being in the US and learning grade 2 literary braille code as a kid, the only symbol I was made aware of was dots 4-6. At first I was told this indicated italics. But later, I was told this was a catch-all symbol for any

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @127, being in the US and learning grade 2 literary braille code as a kid, the only symbol I was made aware of was dots 4-6. At first I was told this indicated italics. But later, I was told this was a catch-all symbol for any

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @127I've been curious about the different braille tables and syntax standards myself. You might want to try taking a look at [Unified English Braille], it seems to predominantly support 6 dot braille types and offers a numb

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Camlorn wrote:But the thing is that in addition to spelling, braille teaches you about formatting.  Italics, bold, etc. have equivalents in braille, and if you read novels or something in braille as a kid--even if it's f

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Ok so was composing my response, but accidentally closed window, so it is rewritten.So Camlorn it is extremely  obvious to me that your entire purpose of posting on this thread is to knitpick my  arguments and bash me. I

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @119 you are correct about low vision. I do have some vision in my right eye, and I tend to see better on cloudy days than sunny days. Another one example where things are different for my vision with displays on devices. I also

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Ok so was composing my response, but accidentally closed window, so it is rewritten.So Camlorn it is extremely  obvious to me that your entire purpose of posting on this thread is to knitpick my  arguments and bash me. I

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) I haven't been able to use braille for a number of years now and every time I go to get a display something happens and I need to stick it on the back burner for a while longer. I can still remember all the contractions so

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) No, sorry, GrannyCheeseWheel is right.  You're not even reading closely enough to notice that I said that canes have improved a lot in the last 20 years.  I literally just said they're durable and good nowadays, but d

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Not listening, more like I have thought of these issues, and have a solidly rooted opinion.  Also we need more low vision contributers for this topic I would say. Would add more prerspective. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Yes, that's why CCTVs have a multitude of various contrast and color settings. Sometimes, even people with the same condition need different accommodations. Also, on bad vision days, you might need to crank up the zoom, us

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Camlorn, actually you  would be surprised how durable the ambutech foldable canes are. That thing has been  I was crossing a parking lot with a sighted friend, and we had thought this guy was waiting, but he  accelerated when we

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Camlorn, actually you  would be surprised how durable the ambutech foldable canes are. That thing has been  I was crossing a parking lot with a sighted friend, and we had thought this guy was waiting, but he  accelerated when we

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) I've travelled with someone using a long cane. Being in the back of a car was awkward, but perfectly doable Just meant you could get bonked by the thing because it wouldn't fold. Again though, this is one of a few rea

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Yeah, so here's the thing about braille, from a purely practical perspective.  Obviously I've already mentioned mathematics at a high level--the speech tools just fall over.  But I imagine most people here don't

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Ok Camlorn, some points here.You can  criticise me for having opinions of multiple subjects, such as  braille and people with multiple disabilities etc. Truth is people aren't a computer program, you can criticise mul

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Braille is a must in my book. At least at the childhood stage. If, after that, you want to give it up, so be it. But, it would have already imparted its benefits to you by then. Braille is literacy. If you don't know braill

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) enes wrote:Oh also, did we cover folding vs the aluminum nonfolding cane debate? There is absolutely no reason to use a nonfolding cane. Try that if you're tall, and have a tall cane, and climb into a taxy, or an airplane

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) enes wrote:Oh also, did we cover folding vs the aluminum nonfolding cane debate? There is absolutely no reason to use a nonfolding cane. Try that if you're tall, and have a tall cane, and climb into a taxy, or an airplane

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Want to jump back in and say two quick things here, because Canlorn pretty much gets it.1. Nonfolding vs. folding: I personally use a folding cane, because I don't like carting around a nearly six-foot unfoldable awkward

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Ok, so first, it's optional.  No one is making you go to an NFB training center.Second, with respect to treating as though you're blind, again, no one is making you go to an NFB training center.  But you're simu

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @111:I get where you are coming from regarding Braille. But you know what? I do think it is still useful, at least to get a view of reading and writing in your mind, even if you do it in your own language.Take me for the example

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Oh also, did we cover folding vs the aluminum nonfolding cane debate? There is absolutely no reason to use a nonfolding cane. Try that if you're tall, and have a tall cane, and climb into a taxy, or an airplane. An

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) That is a point though that  it is voluntary. But not everyone will be educated on training center policies to be honest. The issue is, you aren't more likely to lose vision than lose hearing or  have an amputation. If a p

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Okay, so let's talk really briefly about the whole sleep shades thing. I say "really briefly" here because I'm going to knock your argument into a cocked hat pretty swiftly and then move on.Teaching from bli

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) another point I should touch upon. Its stated here what the harms  of  shooting high if it were, or having extremely high expectations of someone attending a training center are. This approach is indeed harmful and bad. While

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) another point I should touch upon. Its stated here what the harms  of  shooting high if it were, or having extremely high expectations of someone attending a training center are. This approach is indeed harmful and bad. While

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Jayde, you wanted examples, here is one. The use of blindfolds for training, and the exclusive teaching of nonvisual techniques in all training is something I would say is objectionable. The argument here is what if your vision

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Jayde, you wanted examples, here is one. The use of blindfolds for training, and the exclusive teaching of nonvisual techniques in all training is something I would say is objectionable. The argument here is what if your vision

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) I mean, that's not my point exactly.  The chances of the average blind person going and cooking a meal for 50 people or what have you are really small.  And yeah, being prepared for the worst situations out there makes the

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) So, can you provide examples of this so-called "rigid training" that are universally bad? Because I can't.Structured discovery and the "no asking for help on your final test" rule might seem silly to y

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) I am not confused on where I stand. I object to rigid training that doesn't  take into account one's personal capabilities or situations. I also do not need any such training, but was commenting on an outsider point o

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @enesI just have to say that even the NFB isn't going to take someone with multiple disabilities and be like "here's your tablesaw".  They're not reckless lunatics.  They take a philosophy and go way

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Okay, so just for a quick comparison here:My stepmother had to cook two separate meals on two consecutive days. The first meal fed eight people. The second meal seven. And this is because of Covid-19. It is likely that had Covid

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) It s'funny, I get where Enes is coming from; at least on the learning unnecessary skills part and feeling like certain skills are just not your calling. I can't speak on the multiple disabilities front, but will onl

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Jayde, I really think even 15 might be quite high. I would say a meal for  5-10 would be reasonable. Most sighted people will only ever cook for their close familly and this is the issues with training centers holding blind

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Enes, I feel like you're kind of introducing complexity where there is none.Obviously some people with multiple disabilities are going to have trouble with things that people with only one of those disabilities can do

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Camlorn, I am in  no need of a training center honestly. I don't have issues with hand brain coordination or whatever you  would  call it since childhood I have been using tools, sharp and dangerous ones at that, like large

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) If you're telling me that there's somewhere that teaches woodworking and rock climbing, that's somewhere I'd suggest you go to.  Unless it's the NFB, which is a shame in this instance.  Those skills are

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) One other absolutely critical skill is computer skills. I think  I will go far enough and say any blind person should be at least an upper intermediot or user. A blind person who isn't tech savvy has alot more to lose t

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Camlorn, balance issues depend on the level of it  i'd say. For severe total disfunction, people at that level use a walker not being able to stand.By mobility, I meant the o m part, as in finding directions without a g

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Camlorn, balance issues depend on the level of it  i'd say. For severe total disfunction, people at that level use a walker not being able to stand.By mobility, I meant the o m part, as in finding directions without a g

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @93I mean, yes.  But this thread isn't about "I'm blind and I have these 3 other problems", so not sure how what I'm saying needs this clarification?  If you stack on enough disabilities living indepen

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Camlorn,  the problem though, with those two types of skills, is that even the most critical ones, not every person would be able to master them. O M for example, if you have a hearing loss, and can't distinguish between

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Camlorn,  the problem though, with those two types of skills, is that even the most critical ones, not every person would be able to master them. O M for example, if you have a hearing loss, and can't distinguish between

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @91In that case no one but you is even noticing that they're uneven in the slightest, for what that's worth.  Vision only is really good at judging sizes if you put stuff next to each other. URL: https://forum.audi

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) I do cut off only a bite at a time. Still end up with less-than-uniform pieces because I just don't care enough.And I agree with you re: normality. This is probably part of the reason why the fair majority of my friend

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Yeah, but unfortunately there is a fine line between "this thing is fine", and "this thing is fine, but you will be judged and that's disadvantageous to you right now".  Out alone?  Sure, get the re

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) I've never actually asked for my meat to be cut at a restaurant, but I had it happen once. I went to the Keg, which for those of you who don't know is a steakhouse. I went alone, because I'm awkward and weird like

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @86Jayde is probably better than me at this.  The curse of living in Florida is that there wasn't anything worth doing, and the curse of being an introvert is that I didn't want to anyway.  But yes, this level of eff

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) @83, the idea of a sort of mobility simulator sounds interesting, and I have been toying with similar ideas in the past as well. The problem though is that I never really got the hang of programming (except for the basics and a

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) camlorn wrote:I don't know where you're getting 6 weeks learning the same route from.  This probably just comes from practice, but it only takes me and my brother a day or two at most.  When I was in college, we'd

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Can confirm. When I learn to get to new places, it takes me hours or a few days if the route is complicated. In fact, when my instructor (when I had one) wanted to drill the same route more than two or three times, I'

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) When it comes to going beyond the sighted instructors, I didn't get where I am by just going for it.  It took like 10 years starting somewhere in high school when they were finally just kind of like "we don't hav

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Another long post ahead, I didn't intend it to be but my brain ran away.I'm not sure about my feelings on how much training one should receive from a sighted or blind instructor. Camlorn mentioned it in post 74.I gr

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Another long post ahead, I didn't intend it to be but my brain ran away.I'm not sure about my feelings on how much training one should receive from a sighted or blind instructor. Camlorn mentioned it in post 74.I gr

Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context)

Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Another long post ahead, I didn't intend it to be but my brain ran away.I'm not sure about my feelings on how much training one should receive from a sighted or blind instructor. Camlorn mentioned it in post 74.I gr

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Jayde, I never stated we shouldn't  have the skills to be independant etc.   My point was the same as yours. OIf I am alone and navigating, I use all tools available to me. However, when given a choice between freezing to

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Re: frustrated with blindness (read post if you want context) Jayde, I never stated we shouldn't  have the skills to be independant etc.   My point was the same as yours. OIf I am alone and navigating, I use all tools available to me. However, when given a choice between freezing to

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