Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? Wait what? How could it? Can you please hack me? First of all, why would you run something like that? We could argue that they didn't know, but even so, couldn't you press NVDA alt page down to disconnect immediately as soon as you heard a

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? Ok so let me just point out that Sam and Mason were both hacked, originally, due to scripts they ran which sent their remote.ini files to Ivan. Sure you can say all you want that the devs trust bad people, but this could happen to literally anybody

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? Oh, I'm not saying the devs aren't at all at fault, but people seem to like to say, oh it's the developers fault 100% that their code got stolen and is now being spread around like alcahol on new years eve. URL: https://forum.audiogames.

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? It's not a question of whether it was your fault or no, but whether you did everything possible to minimize that risk. If you are hosting your things on Dropbox, giving links to people in order to help you, then you didn't. URL: https://forum.audi

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? yeah, Virus stuff may get you into that too, I mean, Just look at the sxt python rewrite topic as a big egzampal@37, I don't know... But some people told me that info, I don't know if it's true or false. URL: https://forum.audiogames.

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? @34, over 90 percent of the time its the fault of the devs. The devs don't vet people properly, or they trust the wrong individuals, and shit happens. And according to this report, two-thirds of security incidents are caused by insiders. URL:

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? Meh, not saying devs of these specific games are victims of these, but alot of times they take some programme given to them by some kid on the street, they run it and oh no, they're computer has a giant backdoor punched through it and oh no, is that a

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? @29 This is wrong. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597329/#p597329 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? Come on, it is the devs in like 90% of these cases. Sure, you can't just predict someone's behavior, I get that, but at the same time, you can do more to vet people. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597318/#p597318 -- Audiogames-reflect

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? that's mostly a result of useing same password everywhere, same email everywhere, and/or not cairing about antiviruses, the last one... well I was its slave until... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597317/#p597317 -- Audiogames-reflector ma

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? Programming has nothing to do with hacking. Sure, it can, but being able to code in a scripting language as nitch as BGT doesn't say much. And again, either way, don't blame the devs. People don't just give passwords out and that's how sh

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? @32 mostly yes, i'd say... if you get hacked by someone who barely knows how to code in bgt... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597311/#p597311 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabah

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? Yeah, because you getting hacked is certainly your fault 100% of the time. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597309/#p597309 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? @28 that's what I meant when I said stupidity of the devs. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597305/#p597305 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/ma

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? yeah, And it seems that there are ways to hack dropbox by just trying random links and it may work, I think that dropbox refers to like a link id for a user, So maybe if someone got that id he can try random stuff and enter private stuff? Not sure, But i

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? Hacking? Didn't know it was that easy to get your hands on somebody's Dropbox, and apparently these are kids who can't even code. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597232/#p597232 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audio

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? Um... no, no, and more no. Not all of the code leaks happened because people added the wrong people to their dev teams. Sure once it did, but otherwise, it was from hacking. Did Ivan work on Redspot? Nope. The TK source was leaked through a Dropbox link by

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? lol? But not only online games what got forcked though, I mean, Look to how many forcks of sbp offline we have? I can't tell scrolling battles because it was open sourced, But sbp offline wasn't, And remind me if another one got too, I just don

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? Seriously peoople, that reasoning is totally busted. Alot of the sources that got out were either due to the stupidity o fthe dev, or the devs inviting random people on the team who are just there then say oops, thanks for the code, hahaha, fuck you, bye

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? I agree with Nidza07. Unauthorized forks do not arise because a product is open-source; they arise because people invite developers who should not be trusted onto their development team. In fact I'd say open-sourcing... Wait, I already mentioned that in

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? I agree with Nidza07. Unauthorized forks do not arise because a product is open-source; they arise because people invite developers who should not be trusted onto their development team. In fact I'd say open-sourcing... Wait, I already mentioned that in

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? Some new developer won't be making an online FPS as their first project, or anything online for that matter. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597048/#p597048 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? @22, What you said about making careful about leacking stuff is true, However, If some stuff got leacked at first because new devs making mistakes, That has a big chance of happening again you know... That's what am trying to say, Not everyone is

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? Ok, you want online  examples? No problem. Where are the leaks of Crazy party, RS games, Playroom, Top speed, Road to rage? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597027/#p597027 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? The only games that got leaked is online games, as that's the only thing people care about. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596973/#p596973 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabah

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? Instead of trying to prevent unauthorised forks, why not prevent the code from leaking out? Why don't we have forks of Manamon, AAC, anything from Liam, and countless other available BGT games? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596969/#p5

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? you allow others to fork your game when you open source it, that way it wont be a clone, unles you have a license states otherwise and others break it, than it'll be an unothrised fork URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596965/#p5

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? Here's the thing.No matter what language you use to make your games in, people will find a way to make unauthorized forks of it. Just because people will make unauthorized forks doesn't mean you shouldn't open-source your games (in fact, that

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? yeah, unauthroized forckers doesn't mind if it was c++ as long as it does run and there's some code to copy/paste, And yes i do agree that python is easier than bgt, But again, Doesn't matter for unauthroized  forckers. URL: https://forum

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? I would argue that Python in a lot of ways is easier than BGT. It's also harder, but once you get it, it truly isn't challenging. I suppose in the mindset of the cloners, though, it's all about just making it work. URL: https://forum.audi

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? i didn't say that someone will be able to decompile, I am just saying that languages like bgt that gives you everything handed just by downloading it could result in forcking, Just what the cloners need is a source code of something and the cloning

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? Oh yeah. It has a networking lib, but you need to manually manage your memory for literally everything, including a simple sound. That's enough to scare most people anyways I think . URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596870/#p596870 -- Audio

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? Yeah, and it's not as though having the language will enable you to just decompile applications willy nilly, so even that argument is pretty much nullified. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596867/#p596867 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? No, he meant cloning PB games, not the language itself. Still, I doubt programming language is the issue here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596849/#p596849 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? Uh, since when did a product being free equal said product being open source? I'm confused.Also, uh, why exactly would anyone want to clone PB the way people clone games here anyway? Totally different situation, dude. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? @7, I mean if it's that easy if some source got out somehow people will be forcking it forever like we are having at bgt right now, If it was free that is, That's why i said am glad it's not. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? @7, I mean if it's that easy if some source got out somehow people will be forcking it forever like we are having at bgt right now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596841/#p596841 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-refl

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? I hate FreeBasic. Huge executables, no in-built libraries, shitty IDE, etc. PB has lots of features. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596805/#p596805 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? a question, what are the difrints bitween the paid pure basic and other basic programming languages such as the free free basic URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596779/#p596779 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? @6, what exactly do you mean? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596652/#p596652 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? @4 wow, then am glad that it’s paid, or we will be having pb unauthroized forcks by now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596641/#p596641 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? @2 ve @3it's being topics or either messages. My main concern wasn'T that one and also might be miss recall it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596593/#p596593 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-guc

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? I went through the PB phase, as it were, a while ago. It's... okay. It's sort of like BGT 2.0, as it were. Everything's just, handed to you, and third party packages are basically non-existent. I'm sort of over it now, but I will give

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? @2 lol, Not me either, Last once was by rory who likes pb for some reason, Maybe am going to try it at some point, But the fact that pay to use a language is... Ahem.Or maybe he means Scarlet_Shells? That game is written in pb as i know. URL: https

Re: Why do You like pure basic?

Re: Why do You like pure basic? What are you talking about? I haven't seen a PB topic in ages. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596577/#p596577 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/ma

Why do You like pure basic?

Why do You like pure basic? i see a few pure basic topics popping up these days. Why do You like pb? What are the advantages and disadvantiges? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596576/#p596576 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com