Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille I learned braille when I was 3 years old with a perkins brailler. When I was 12 or so I got a braille lite18. Now I have two orbit reader20 braille displays. I use them to read in church on sundays in front of the congregation at the microphone

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille when I need braille, I use my low cost orbit reader20 or my even lower-cost braille me braille display from www.atguys.com ... They work good for reading and writing digital braille and having lots of braille whenever i want it. URL: https

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille So I think braille should be taught, but not imposed on a person. Braille would be very essential in studying subjects like math phonetics, with alot of special symbols. But for me, it is like a bottleneck in many other contexts. With eloquence I can

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille @35: I swear you remind me of somebody who gave me a sociology and history class in five minutes while drunk yesterdayand it was amazing! You do raise an interesting point actually about moral consumerism, and ethics as well about marketing

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille other thoughts on the uses of braille that come to mind now that I live alone: reading some things such as phone numbers, recipes, money amounts is certainly way easier and applies to daily braille use. I can also play games such as uno, poker, and so

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille other thoughts on the uses of braille that come to mind: reading some things such as phone numbers, recipes, money amounts is certainly way easier and applies to daily braille use. I can also play games such as uno, poker, and so on  with all of my

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille You know what? On the c thing, I stand corrected. You are absolutely right. It has been awhile.And the Spanish I learned was more...well, formal, I guess, so a native Spanish speaker would probably think I sounded prissy or overly detailed when

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Jayde wrote:I have never seen a Spanish word begin with the letter c that gets pronounced like an s or a z. When the letter c is in the middle of a word and gets pronounced like an s, there are rules governing how and where and why. I'm not sure

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Regarding Spanish pronunciation:B and v are different. They're very similar, but different enough that you should be able to figure them out by listening. I never had any issue with this.I have never seen a Spanish word begin with the letter c

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Yeah, you mostly hear about sighted people listening to audio books only when driving, or performing another task where they need to concentrate on something else. However, the dramatic rise in popularity of podcasts has put more focus on different

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille kaigoku wrote:but we technically never really interact with the text directly when using a screen reader, and thus, not reading.One argument I might get is that if you scan word by word, character by character, sentence by sentence

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille kaigoku wrote:but we technically never really interact with the text directly when using a screen reader, and thus, not reading.One argument I might get is that if you scan word by word, character by character, sentence by sentence

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille kaigoku wrote:but we technically never really interact with the text directly when using a screen reader, and thus, not reading.One argument I might get is that if you scan word by word, character by character, sentence by sentence

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille kaigoku wrote:but we technically never really interact with the text directly when using a screen reader, and thus, not reading.One argument I might get is that if you scan word by word, character by character, sentence by sentence

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille The way I see it is that braille is a good way to gain foundational reading/writing skills. I would also be interested to hear and read text produced by those who used speech as a way to gain some language fundamentals. I feel like braille has played

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Jayde wrote:Okay, so...if you know the language's pronunciation rules, it's easy to spell virtually anything. A few words will trip you up (words that start with h, maybe), but other than that, I...don't get it.Words that contain a b or an v normally

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Jayde wrote:Okay, so...if you know the language's pronunciation rules, it's easy to spell virtually anything. A few words will trip you up (words that start with h, maybe), but other than that, I...don't get it.Words that contain a b or an v normally

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Jayde wrote:Okay, so...if you know the language's pronunciation rules, it's easy to spell virtually anything. A few words will trip you up (words that start with h, maybe), but other than that, I...don't get it.Words that contain a b or an v normally

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Jayde wrote:Okay, so...if you know the language's pronunciation rules, it's easy to spell virtually anything. A few words will trip you up (words that start with h, maybe), but other than that, I...don't get it.Words that contain a b or an v normally

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Okay, so...I'm not quite sure about the issues mentioned regarding French and Spanish.I will agree that French has a lot of words that sound very similar, and you have to know how they're spelled and which accents they have on them.But Spanish

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Braille is more of a code than a language in my opinion. I think of it as similar to Morse code.I think we get caught up in definitions a little too much. Language, literacy, and other keywords on this thread don't have one, finite, and  single

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Well, that's the case for you. for me at leased that hole lugging around although easier solutions like notetakers were available was and still is a point why I prefer reading electronic Braille over written paper, also ue to portability.Greetings

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille simba wrote:if you carried around Braille school books for different lessons in school you remember what I mean.and how is this even related? I, just like others, had to lug around a brailler, and math volumes were a pain along with all of the other

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Hi.i just don't feel the spark as others do when they see written Braille on paper in books, or writing on paper with a Brailler. If people enjoy and love this, ok, good for them, I personally  don't see why I would care about paper really. We have

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille thanks for the thumbs up, but my friend deserves them more than me. haha. Its very interesting to hear or rather, read, from some of you that literacy has a different perspective. But, braille is still becoming way more essential in other languages

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille thanks for the thumbs up, but my friend deserves them more than me. haha. Its very interesting to hear or rather, read, from some of you that literacy has a different perspective. But, braille is still becoming way more essential in other languages

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille thanks for the thumbs up, but my friend deserves them more than me. haha. Its very interesting to hear or rather, read, from some of you that literacy has a different perspective. But, braille is still becoming way more essential in other languages

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Just some commentary on Braille - the main reason why there is so much emphasis on Braille is because Braille is symbolic of blind people. Interestingly, blindness socially has distanced itself significantly from the function of being blind

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille @33, I'm just the opposite on math. I can read very little braille math because I wasn't taught more than the numbers until I was a senior in high school. I do better when I don't have to look at something,, and can just focus on the problem. I'm

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille I view braille as essential for someone who is blind. This is for several reasons, but the most important is access, especially in STEM or language arts. Trying to comprehend and work math concepts and equations without braille is sheer hell. Last

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille No, it definitely isn't, especially since most people have crappy habits when it comes to their posture when sitting in front of a computer. Also, that's interesting that some people consider Braille as a language and others don't. I never gave

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille I used a manual brailler for most of my high school career, and my hands and wrists are fine. So far, at least. lolAlso, typing is often murderous on the hands and wrists because people are infamous for putting keyboards in really weird places

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille I did some searching and found some information from the Braille Athority of North America. They say the following:BANA recommends that the word “braille,” when referring to the code developed by Louis Braille, be written with an initial lowercase

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille I guess it really has a lot to do with your background, and any forced overuse. I had to use a manual Braille writer for pretty much the entire school day, with few, if any breaks, and no shorthand. I'm surprised I don't have problems with my hands

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille It's weird. I've never considered Braille a language. It is more like a cipher or a code to translate languages into a readable format. it is no more a language than written Spanish is an independent language from spoken Spanish.That being said, I

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Speaking as a person who's had to use braille since the early stages of life, my overall opinion is that it can either be very useful for the person who has their mind set on using braille and specialist equipment throughout the rest of their lives

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille I've always seen Braille capitalized, and I assumed it was because it's because it was named after its creator, not necessarily because it's a language. Either way, though, since languages are capitalized, and Braille qualifies as one, to a degree

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille I personally have hard copies of several books, most notably The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I got them several years ago for Christmas, and love them. I do like hard copies of particular books, but it's not realistic to expect

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille @22, fully agree. My book library is over 5 GB in digital formats -- both EPUB and HTML. I have over 200 books on a ton of subjects, some being mathematical in nature, but most being on OSes, programming and such. If I wanted all of those in braille

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille I don't agree with Ethin a lot, but I have to agree with the conversation above. It's very interesting to think about. Just because I cannot really read or write printed characters doesn't mean I'm illiterate, in the same way listening to an audiobook

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille I don't agree with Ethin a lot, but I have to agree with the conversation above. It's very interesting to think about. Just because I cannot really read or write printed characters doesn't mean I'm illiterate, in the same way listening to an audiobook

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille @20: I think probably, since it comes from a person's name. IDK if other encoding systems are capitalized... Morse Code? Which is also named after its inventor. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/459281/#p459281 -- Audiogames-reflector

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille I don't agree with Ethin a lot, but I have to agree with the conversation above. It's very interesting to think about. Just because I cannot really read or write printed characters doesn't mean I'm illiterate, in the same way listening to an audiobook

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille I don't agree with Ethin a lot, but I have to agree with the conversation above. It's very interesting to think about. Just because I cannot really read or write printed characters doesn't mean I'm illiterate, in the same way listening to an audiobook

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Drinking game: take a shot every time you read the word literacy in this thread... Braille, like anything, is but one tool to use where necessary. It makes more sense to leverage Braille in say, STEM fields (physics, chemistry, biology, etc) than

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille On a slightly related topic, should braille be capitalized? I would say no because it is not a language. Anyone else know for sure? I have seen some people capitalize it while some others do not. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/459277/#p459277

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille @18, fair enough. We have two different points but they're pretty much the same thing, just worded differently. Yes, I wish that literacy and illiteracy weren't so overloaded and overused myself. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/459275

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille The overarching point here is that literacy, and illiteracy for that matter, have been used to stigmatize certain behaviour, or certain classes of people, and that's not cool. The word, then, is kind of loaded, which causes some to bristle when it's

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille @16, I like your definition better than mine, to be honest. My definition was me trying to define my exact parameters -- something I clearly didn't do too well. Yes, I suppose that by my own definitions conversation equals reading. My overarching

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille My only caveat re: your definition of reading, Ethin, is that in technicality, every time you converse with someone, you're both reading. Why? Because you are listening to content, consuming it and processing it. So by your definition, conversation

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille @13, you have a fair point. I just personally hold the belief that reading is consuming media/text in a way that is comfortable for the reader; how they do it doesn't really matter to me. Same goes for writing; if so long as I can consume

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille same post 4 is not saying i hate braille, not really. I love it, it's my main thing: i'm writing with it, reading. Just i said i am using slite and stile for write, and it's so really annoying when you have write so much. Brailler is more cool when

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille As someone who used a manual brailler for foreign languages like French and Spanish right through high school, and who thus often had to carry the damn thing everywhere through my academic career before post-secondary, I can attest that bulk is a pain

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Like I said, I don't hate Braille. I hate the attitude that it's a cure-all. I would rather have someone or something read to me, thanks to my idiotic aid in grade school, who wouldn't let me so much as think about using contracted braille because she

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille I agree with Jade for the most part. It's very important for a blind student to learn Braille at the same time their sighted peers are learning to write print, assuming, of course, that the person didn't lose their vision later in life. I completely

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Imo, literacy necessarily involves decoding written symbols directly, and having them read by a TTS shouldn't count. Writing is more ambiguous, since I can't think of any reason that typing shouldn't count. All throughout history, and still today

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille I disagree on the "oh, you can't learn how to spell or put punctuation marks in their proper place without braille" argument; in essence, its the "You can't learn to read or write/illiteracy" argument. Yes, the comput

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille I agree with post 6, and I would like to add that I have two braille displays, which I use everyday. Braille helps me with my spelling and grammar, but braille does have its limits. For example, speech is faster, and even the most well made braille

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille here is a speech from a friend who is also an accomplished elementary school teacher on the use of braille, hope you enjoy. Since she had made it public and it was so good, I would think its really fitting to include it in here: P.d. I really enjoy

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille here is a speech from a friend who is also an accomplished elementary school teacher on the use of braille, hope you enjoy. Since she had made it public and it was so good, I would think its really fitting to include it in here:CTEBVI Speech 4-12-19

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille I began while using a standard manual Perkins brailler, and then around grade six or so, I mostly switched to a Braille & Speak. Let me tell you, I can fly on one of those, and a lot of the complaints about hard-copy braille are eliminated there.

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille The same thing used to happen with me when I used to use braille in school. There were so many things to write and sometime I couldn't keep up with the teacher who used to sometime dictate the answers. Brailler was a bit easier to use than braille

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Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille thums up to post 1, and i agreed you are totally true 100%You don't know in my school, most of times for example on maths, we are writting rules, sums, and they are so many. Our fingers are tireed, and hurts. Well i really love braille itself, i'm

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Another good thing about Braille is that it'll be there as a backup when technology breaks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/459105/#p459105 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille

Re: my thoughts on the uses of Braille Hi.I quite agree on the post, personally I was really happy when I finally switched from writing on braille paper with a hulk of a brailler to simple typing on a laptop and braille display. I haven't read braille on npaper since well over 5 years now

my thoughts on the uses of Braille

my thoughts on the uses of Braille Let me start this off by saying I don't hate Braille at all. That's how I learned to read, and how I learned to love reading. What I hate is the attitudes of schools and others who work with the visually impaired toward Braille. They seem to think it's