Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Rules

2008-11-14 Thread Nonreality
mvalera;359700 Wrote: Guy, First of all Sean Adams (the SlimDevices founder) locked that thread, not me. I was actually OOTO at the time and never even saw it until after it had been locked. Secondly, locking a thread is not censorship. It is the result of violating our forum rules,

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sound of Ripped CDs not good, what do I do?

2008-11-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a fairly new Squeezebox™ Classic hooked up to my tube amplifier. My files are ripped on my server in FLAC format and are transmitted wirelessly to the SB. I use dBpoweramp to rip the music on my laptop. It is turning out that my ripped music sounds thin and less musical compared to the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Apple Lossless to WAV?

2008-11-14 Thread Anne
Yes, very sad, but Themis is right, if only redbook was like this, I feel I have 300 cd´s I no longer want to listen to. Anyway, I converted one album to WAV, and well, I didnt do comparisons yet, but a bit more volume (gain), and more kbps in the file is obvious. And, suddenly ITunes wont

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Total Harmonic Distortion (THD+N)

2008-11-14 Thread jaffacake
I've been looking into my Squeezebox Receiver (SBR) specifications and I've come across some figures I don't understand. Maybe one of the resident experts could help explain. In the SBR is a Wolfson WM8522 DAC. The manuafacturers of this DAC unit claim a THD+N value of -85dB. I've attached the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Total Harmonic Distortion (THD+N)

2008-11-14 Thread Themis
If I recall properly, THD+N and SNR on dacs depend on signal bit depth and sampling. It's usually not the same for 16/44.1, 24/48 and 24/96. Perhaps this explains the small differences ? -- Themis SB3 - North Star dac 192 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Total Harmonic Distortion (THD+N)

2008-11-14 Thread seanadams
A DAC chip doesn't do anything by itself - it's part of a whole system, requiring externally provided power, data, clocks, filtering, and amplification. The DAC chip manufacturers specify a worst case or CYA value in their data sheets. This is a nominal figure which usually corresponds to how the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Rules

2008-11-14 Thread mvalera
So neither the rules or the moderators have changed. Just the penalty for violating one rule in particular. We will no longer tolerate personal attacks, and violation of that rule has much more serious consequences. I think we will be able separate out witty banter from the vitriol. :) As of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Total Harmonic Distortion (THD+N)

2008-11-14 Thread seanadams
Also, a key selling point of any DAC is the total system cost - that's the DAC chip itself plus the handful of other components required. The manufacturer's reference design is usually not even intended to deliver the maximum possible performance that the part is capable of, but rather to hit a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Apple Lossless to WAV?

2008-11-14 Thread mswlogo
Nonreality;359466 Wrote: That was my understanding too. times three -- mswlogo XP Cat5 Transporter SPDIF Meridian G68 DSP 6000, 5500HC, 33 XP Cat5 SB3 SPDIF Meridian DSP 5000 XP Cat5 SB3 SPDIF Meridian G91 DSP 5000 'My Transporter Setup'

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Total Harmonic Distortion (THD+N)

2008-11-14 Thread jaffacake
Sean, Thanks for explaining that, I fully understand now. Much obliged. -- jaffacake Ben - eco conscious techie and author of Jaffa's Green Blog - http://www.jaffacake.net jaffacake's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 or Duet for sound quality?

2008-11-14 Thread daverich4
I'm setting up a dedicated headphone listening station and I'm wondering if there's any difference between the SB3 or the Duet as far as sound quality? I have both. Any preference for optical or coax for digital out to my DAC? And, although this may not be the appropriate place for this question,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 or Duet for sound quality?

2008-11-14 Thread daverich4
I have the Headroom Desktop and external power supply. It has the updated Max electronics and Max DAC. Sennheiser 600 and AKG 701 headphones. -dave- -- daverich4 daverich4's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 or Duet for sound quality?

2008-11-14 Thread Themis
*nice setup !* So, imho, as a digital transport, you should not notice any difference between the SB3 and the Receiver. Te SBR has a tad better S/N ratio but I doubt you can make the difference on a headphone (except perhaps the Shure, I couldn't anyway). Theoretically, coax digital is better,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 or Duet for sound quality?

2008-11-14 Thread mvalera
If you're using the digital out than it doesn't matter. The SPDIF section is identical between the Classic and Receiver. I use the analog outs on my Classic to my headroom headphone amp Sennheiser HD-580s. -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 or Duet for sound quality?

2008-11-14 Thread daverich4
Do you not believe that a better DAC makes a difference or just don't have one in that particular setup? I intend to try it both ways, just interested in your opinion. Thanks. -dave- -- daverich4 daverich4's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 or Duet for sound quality?

2008-11-14 Thread mvalera
The SPDIF outs bypass the DAC, so that is not a factor. And as I said, the SPDIF sections between the 2 products are identical... as in exactly the same. :) If you are going digital out, then there is zero difference between Squeezebox Receiver and Squeezebox Classic. As for analog I cannot

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sound of Ripped CDs not good, what do I do?

2008-11-14 Thread zano65
[EMAIL PROTECTED];359923 Wrote: I have a fairly new Squeezebox™ Classic hooked up to my tube amplifier. My files are ripped on my server in FLAC format and are transmitted wirelessly to the SB. I use dBpoweramp to rip the music on my laptop. It is turning out that my ripped music sounds

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 or Duet for sound quality?

2008-11-14 Thread ar-t
Yes, they are, but. There are some, I repeat, -some- minor sidebands in the SPDIF output on the SB3. These are 60 Hz related. Mind you, they are down near the noise floor. They are absent in the Duet. Might mean absolutely nothing, but it gives you something to stay awake nights

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sound of Ripped CDs not good, what do I do?

2008-11-14 Thread Nonreality
[EMAIL PROTECTED];359923 Wrote: I have a fairly new Squeezebox™ Classic hooked up to my tube amplifier. My files are ripped on my server in FLAC format and are transmitted wirelessly to the SB. I use dBpoweramp to rip the music on my laptop. It is turning out that my ripped music sounds

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Rules

2008-11-14 Thread Nonreality
mvalera;360033 Wrote: So neither the rules or the moderators have changed. Just the penalty for violating one rule in particular. We will no longer tolerate personal attacks, and violation of that rule has much more serious consequences. I think we will be able separate out witty banter

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Apple Lossless a compromise?

2008-11-14 Thread Nonreality
DeVerm;358577 Wrote: Hmm.. you're hitting a big void in my knowledge what tags exactly are we talking about? I know track album gain but what are soundcheck tags? cheers Nick. Itunes version of replay gain. They have to be different you know. It adds it as a proprietary comment

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Apple Lossless a compromise?

2008-11-14 Thread Mnyb
Nonreality, id you ever submit a bug on this ? Is it still open, this is the kind of bug I want to vote on. -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 or Duet for sound quality?

2008-11-14 Thread Themis
daverich4;360130 Wrote: Do you not believe that a better DAC makes a difference or just don't have one in that particular setup? I intend to try it both ways, just interested in your opinion. Thanks. -dave-I think you should stay with your Headroom internal dac board. ;) -- Themis SB3